If you’re charged VAT will you remove your child from their private school? I’m v stressed!

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We won’t be able to pay the increase. Only hope is asking grandparents for the shortfall which we don’t want to do. Anyone else in a similar boat? Do you think it will literally be a 20% increase on fees or will schools absorb some of it? Our school has said they will address the matter ‘if and when’ it applies.

The policy will come in, and absolutely nothing will change in state schools. Except maybe more genderwoo shit

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This

I was thinking that about the spite aimed at op and children

The problem with the Mumsnet is they hate anyone who has got off their bottoms and done something for themselves.

OP I really hope you manage to keep your child in their school and away from these idiots.

What is really going to happen with this moronic policy is what happens in the US. State schools in wealthier areas will thrive with donations and the best pupils while the kids from poorer families will get the leftovers.

The policy is designed to cause division and it is working. No child will be any better off at all.

I really hope businesses start working school fees into their employees salaries do the VAT can be claimed back.

Private swimming lessons, private music lessons, private university fees, private football coaching.....

Where does it end?

Don’t be simple. People are objecting because there are parents who pay thousands a year for private school refusing to believe they have any kind of privilege.

FE College and stand alone 6th form colleges have had to pay VAT for years

What is really going to happen with this moronic policy is what happens in the US. State schools in wealthier areas will thrive with donations and the best pupils while the kids from poorer families will get the leftovers. '
Really? Because a small proportion of parents who can't really afford it will have to stop, they're suddenly going to have enough money to turn the educational landscape on its head to that extent. Aye, sure.

So many people not answering the question. I won't be removing my children. I'm expecting the fees to go up by more than 20% through to compensate for those who couldn't really afford it anyway. In mind this just enhances the value of private education. I don't really understand why the school pretends to be a charity - it is providing a service to some of the wealthiest people in the area.

I don't know how much private schools are but say it's an extra 6k a year can you-

Remortgage
Have a cheaper budget holiday
Reduce number of cars/get a cheaper older car
Shop around for cheaper utilities/insurances
Sim only phone contracts
Shop own brand at supermarket -Asda or Aldi
Cancel gym memberships and do running/home workouts
No takeaways/eating out

With some careful planning the excess could be found

They don’t charge VAT tho so they. This policy is about charging VAT to the recipients of the education.

If you don't think private schools are elitist and breed prejudice, just read the comments on here from parents who utterly despise our state education system to the point that they would put themselves in penury to privately educate their children and think that all state schools are full of feral kids.

Private education breeds contempt for those less fortunate than you. It is baked into the system. I've had to battle against this prejudice from university onwards, both open and indirect and it is fundamentally unjust. It is tough enough being a woman in my field without being judged and mocked (yes mocked) because I'm from a working class background by people whose parents bought them advantage. Yes, this policy is going to need to be properly funded, but if it works it will improve our society.

The idea that rich people can access good state education by buying expensive houses near good schools is arse backwards surely?

The school is good because it is populated by kids with invested, motivated parents. Not because it's just randomly superior and thus caused a stampede of professionals to buy up the surrounding housing.

The school is good because rich people live nearby, not the other way round.

Wow can’t believe how bitter some responses are. I can’t afford private school but certainly don’t begrudge people who can. No matter how much or little we have we all spend within our means so this tax would make a massive difference to many.

A lot of private schools have had huge capital projects, all of that VAT can be re charged. No VAT on lunches, sports, choirs etc. The uptick will be closer to 5-10% and bursaries will go too. It’s a vote winner but sadly i don’t think it will make a big difference to experiences in the state sector.

Pointing out reality ist spite.

Well said.

And therein lies the perfect bubble comment.
Sigh.

Oh we do. And breakfasts.

This is a tiny violin problem, I suggest you figure out a way to pay it asap and get yourself on waiting lists for local secondaries.

Did you skip over posts? Probably

What on earth are you on about? You have to be diagnosed. Why would that be different? It's why a lot of parents have ended up having to use private education, Tories did nothing about it and now Labour aren't either.

So you can see the issue with education being subject to VAT but gambling isn't?
Or that it is illegal to tax education in the EU?

You accuse posters on here of using derogatory stereotypes to describe state schools yet you are doing exactly the same about private?

The fact is that the stare system is a lottery and whilst there are somd amazing state schools, there are also some pretty dire ones and which type you get depends on whereabouts you live. As an example the NE has some of the lowest outcomes in England.

Maybe try to understand the issue before judging.

Wow can’t believe how bitter some responses are

Other pp are noticing it plenty along these lines

@Einwegflasche

How about the poster saying immigrants are the only kids getting bursaries and not council house children? You don't think that's a nasty spiteful comment? Righto.

No I chose it as it was walking distance.

As I've said earlier I recognise my own privilege in having such an excellent school on the doorstep but even if that were not the case I would not go private.