Is anyone else worried about the effect of rising private school fees on state schools?

[BabyIcecream]

Where I live there already aren't enough school places. Three big state secondary's, one is catholic, they are all over subscribed and bursting at the seams using old buildings with not enough funding.

Ive seen reports that at some private schools upto a third of pupils might leave if the fees go up due to VAT.

I'm worried about all these extra pupils needing places, DS already finds his school overcrowded and whilst I don't agree with private education putting extra pupils into the state system is just going to further disadvantage our children.

Unless money raised by increasing private schools costs is going to be used to fund state education? Does anyone know?

@MarshmellowMoon but no because Labour have promised that the money will go to find 6000 new teachers plus mental health specialists plus...plus....plus.....
You mean they aren't being truthful??! 😵

This is massive

I heard about this the other day

By 2036 1 in 11 will be working in NHS

So, in 15 years, we will have more than 10% of the entire workforce working for the NHS. That’s an increase of almost 1m staff.

I will look forward to hearing how politicians suggest that this is paid for…….

Even if they could afford it, where are all these extra people coming from? There is a recruitment crisis in the NHS.

Ah yes, I keep forgetting about the 6,000 teachers currently twiddling their thumbs just waiting for job vacancies to come up……

The main problem with both health and education in this country stems from the fact that the central government politicians meddle with it far too much and have created these weird ideological systems. Many other European countries do not suffer from this and consequently, enjoy far better health and education services, more competently run by experts with no political bias.
Education and Health are weaponised in their Games. It is toxic.

What a ludicrous comment. Can’t afford it? Fine, don’t judge those that want to give their children the best education they can afford.

Luckily the NHS is fine because of the £350million a week it is getting now we have left the EU.

Just like Starmer’s promise over VAT

Plays well

Nothing like Starmer's policy on VAT, because Labour will increase funding for education, whereas the Tories have constantly defunded all aspects of the public sector, whilst simaltaneously raising taxes to their highest ever level. Where has the money gone?

Pie in the sky for votes

Its good that you are accepting that the £350million a week for the NHS was a lie.
Many of us thought it a fairly obvious one at the time of course.

Although very effective the Brexit campaign wasn’t for me and neither is this.

This is what I can’t understand. Surely all decent parents do the best they can for their children, with whatever resources they have. I don’t know why we attack those just trying to do their best.

Where is the money coming from for all this extra funding? It certainly won’t come from VAT on school fees which would a tiny percentage of the overall education budget. It’s easy to promise all this extra spending; more difficult to implement.

@Another76543 I agree. However the endless sanctimonious bleating on these threads about 'sacrifice' really gets me, as if we all give up new handbags and cappuccinos we can afford to send children to private school.

Absolutely

Which policies are actually bringing in the extra funding?

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I’d also question whether that small amount will come to
fruition, or we’ll just see a sector damaged for little gain

The figures above aren't relevant. They include further education (which has been cut) and higher education.

For schools real terms per pupil funding is higher than in 2010. t is £7220 vs £6700 in 2010. See below https://explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk/find-statistics/school-funding-statistics

"When adjusted for inflation, funding per pupil was broadly flat between 2010-11 and 2015-16 at about £6,700 in 2022-23 prices. It then fell by 3.8% over 2016-17 and 2017-18, but subsequently increased by 1.3% over 2018-19 and 2019-20. Since then, funding has increased by 10.3% over the course of the following four years, reaching £7,220 in 2023-24 (in 2022-23 prices). "

I wish funding was the fundamental problem. It would be much easier to solve.