Girl put in isolation for wearing Asda skirt

[ZebraDanios]

Remember the girl who got put in isolation for wearing Vivienne Westwood shoes and everyone said quite right, uniform is there to foster equality?

This girl got put in isolation for wearing a skirt from Asda rather than the (considerably more expensive) school supplier.

It looked so much like the “accepted” skirt that a teacher had to actually check the label on the skirt.

I don’t even know where to start with this.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/real-life/tearful-schoolgirl-12-put-isolation-27758306?fbclid=IwAR1xHZEDSoziQQZgABAyXwVxnVS0_5jYmsagX4dlokdaAH5V-i-H1AaT5gs_aem_AVe2g7zlmL1QO0M8PMPIoJcSpZNkCsCbzuXbAkVrfVrr35xE59pApNSSjTcKKFnbaZA#lmvuwx3o8t1y29p0e3x

This is what pisses me off about dc school. The quality is awful. No logos on anything but the blazer, but the shade of bland they've chosen can only be found in the 2 official suppliers. And it doesn't stop girls wearing them too short, because they just roll them up.

If schools went back to a basic uniform of say black skirt and trousers. White shirt. And a generic black jumper or blazer how would anyone know that little tarquin went to the nice posh grammar school as opposed to the shit hole academy down the road.

Recognising schools by uniform is actually helpful, and improves safety in some cases.

I volunteer at an event with multiple schools — you'd tell if a child was separated from their school much faster if they were one blue jumper in amongst the red. Much easier for everybody to see where they should be too.

It also means if children are particularly helpful or well behaved, you can comment to their teacher if you didn't find out their names. And the converse is true — if they're messing around you can get one of their teachers easily, because they might not tell you which school they go to...

My school always said that when you're in uniform you're representing the school and it wasn't that uncommon to get members of the public contacting them about us when we were out and about. It might have just been to get us to behave of course.

Some people can't. My eyesight is so bad I can't thread a needle.

My DD's school has recently changed uniform. Whereas previously it was a school sweatshirt and you could get the right style skirts and shirts from m&s, Asda, wherever, now they all have to come from a specialist supplier at three times the cost and there's a blazer as well.

It flies so completely in the face of government guidelines it makes me wonder if there's bungs involved.

The two of three primary schools closest to my home all wear maroon sweat shirts with pale blue polo shirts. The third as a navy blue sweat shirt but still has the pale blue polo shirt so the three all look the same on a warm day.

@Iwasafool even with glasses on? My eyesight is bad too, minus double digit numbers but I can still thread a needle.

Yes uniforms of a certain colour (different from another school) can be helpful and maybe with a school badge.
However the bystander helping a child back to their group if they get lost or identifying a child who is creating a nuisance is not going to tell the difference or somehow be flummoxed what school they came from because their skirt was from a supermarket rather than an official supplier

This one with a 22" waist measurement?

So there is! I hadn't spotted it. I had expected it to be in the 20L skirts. However, as I say, whilst the mother's complaint is about size, the real issue is the school having a uniform policy that appears to be unlawful.

The uniform at my DS’ top performing grammar is less strict then all of the surrounding state comps. It’s the shit hole academies that have the strictest uniform policies.

Maybe they were embarrassed they couldn't afford it and made up a different reason (or maybe the size they needed was out of stock)

Either way if the only way to tell is by looking at the label it still a petty and unnecessary rule.

Embarrassed about it, yet posing for sadface pictures in the paper?

@OnAFrolicOfMyOwn

I know right, she looks absolutely mortified. Not.

Attention seeking.

It’s 2023 in a supposedly civilised and modern-thinking country and girls’ shirts are being lifted by controlling adults to check for the correct garment labels? Perhaps we’re not as far removed from the Taliban as we’d like to think?

Dome have the kilt/tartan type skirts , which not only are they a pain to do up, there's no supermarket alternative . So you have to go to the supplier shop.Boys is plain black trousers from anywhere, which is highly unfair.

Probably shouldn't be photographed in the Mail wearing a £44.99 Hull Kingston Rovers football warm up shirt, then.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12549493/Girl-12-whos-tiny-fit-uniform-skirt-punished-school-wearing-supermarket-alternative.html

The girl in the HKR top is not Lilly. It is another, older, girl who was also placed in isolation.

And whose mother is claiming that she can't afford to buy a school skirt.

Ridiculous. I’ve always been a bit of a stickler but with the major issues of schools in danger of collapsing buildings and 1/3 of children not being in school regularly post-pandemic, surely there are far more important things to focus on?

I suspect that schools get a cash back from the uniform provider so it’s in their interest to insist that uniform is purchased through the designated provider, with whom they will have some sort of contract.
I say “ suspect” when I mean pretty certain- I do know for a fact this happens with school meal providers.
Personally I think this school uniform should be banned altogether- it causes far more problems than it solves.

It looked so much like the “accepted” skirt that a teacher had to actually check the label on the skirt.

No..........in the article you linked ALL girls were required to show the labels as part of the routine - and there was nothing stating in the article how similar the skirt was either..........

I'm not disagreeing that this is wrong btw, I just don't like you putting your own spin on things.......

It’s totally irrelevant what the children wear in their own time - hand me downs, desirable labels, off the peg from Sainsbury’s, who cares it’s utterly irrelevant ….. legislation states that school uniform should be affordable and accessible to purchase. The school are on the wrong side here ..

What a ridiculous comment! You have no idea who bought her this top or why. Are poor people not allowed to have nice things? Should she be dressed in sack cloth when not in her school uniform?

I do agree and hate it when Governors/Trustees/Directors/Members refuse to allow the change - even when they have been told it's a legal requirement; although the outfitters are very keen to enforce the contract terms, quite naturally.

I also think that making excuses like it won't fit them when it clearly could if they bought the correct size or that it can't be afforded when they are wearing something significantly more expensive are absolutely ridiculous because it weakens the point that they should be making.

The article says “near identical”.

If the school makes every girl lift their shirt so the teacher can inspect each and every label regardless of whether it looks like the regulation skirt or not then that’s even more ridiculous IMO. It’s a wonder they get any teaching done at that rate…