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[Myspace123]

Hi some of you might remember my post before I was doing a appeal to get my daughter back to her original school after moving her (which ended up being a big mistake) I lost the appeal and that was enough for my daughter to completely lose it and I had no choice but to de-register her from the school , she has now been home schooled for 8 weeks , this is not what we wanted and my daughter is desperate to get back to her original school still, I reapplied 1st aug for her to stay on the waiting lisT again , I keep in contact with the admissions lady at my daughters original school where she wants to go back to , she told me to go the route of fair access protocol as she has been out of school for so long . Can anyone tell me about this and if this would be any good for my daughter , she should be starting year 9 in September this is such a important year , I just need her back to school ☹️

@cansu why don’t you comment elsewhere, seriously you know absolutely nothing about my dd situation only what I have written here, I’m asking for advice I don’t need your catty comments and sarcastic replies,

@Myspace123 she is right though. You seem happier to take the word of a teenager rather than someone who actually knows a bit about it.
Managed moves aren't there as flights of fancy for fed up kids who want a change. They are a bargaining tool for a change of scenery to correct behaviours or have a fresh start.
It really doesn't work the way you have described and instead of taking your 'third daughters' word for it perhaps you would be better placed getting some proper advice.
I hope she is going into today. If not can pastoral support you getting in or the flo? It's important or the decision may be taken out of your hands.... our frequent fliers at work are non attendees.

I do know something about it. I work in a school and have seen many managed moves. I have never heard them being handled in the way you describe. I won't comment further but I can unfortunately tell that a lot of what you are saying does not add up. You won't get useful advice whilst you are telling only part of the story.

Reciprocity in Managed Moves isn't a grown up version of trading Panini stickers that's the FAP meeting.

It's also not compulsory. If a Head doesn't want to take a MM for whatever reason, they do not have to. Especially if there are circumstances where they believe that having one particular student come in would be to the detriment of another/a group.

It wasn’t a form for a managed move , it was a form you give to the head of year to move to another school through admissions (nothing to do with a managed move)
honestly I can’t be bothered with this post anymore I came here to ask for information how managed moves work , and a few posters told me so I’m done with this post now ,

@NeverDropYourMooncup as an aside you've described the FAP meetings perfectly
@Myspace123 I have to admit to being confused now by the paperwork you're describing. Your daughter can't complete an In Year Admission application (which would be the form that goes to admissions to move to a new school)
In your position I would make an appointment with the head or current school and ask for the paperwork your daughter/your friend says was signed last week. It's possible it was a pastoral support form of some kind. As a previous poster said, managed moves can take time to sort out so they may be looking at how your daughter can be supported in current school so that she doesn't end up permanently excluded and directed to an alternative provision (called Pupil Referral units in some areas)
As some have said and are right about, the managed move system is entirely between the two schools, it's nothing to do with admissions at all, neither is it anything to do with alternative provision or directed off site placements, so I don't know where this form fits in.
The managed move your friend's daughter finished could indeed have been terminated by her parent (I've seen managed moves ended because parent discovers the cost of getting to new school is too much and the grass isn't greener, so the fresh start just doesn't work)
Disclaimer... I'm a fair access officer and my particular local authority requires schools to 'log and file' their managed move paperwork with us, including whether they succeed or fail, so I've seen rather a lot! Other local authorities have completely different policies and procedures, particularly if the schools are academies.
I agree that each school handles these things in their own way, normally there is a protocol between all schools within that local authority.
I can't stress enough to you that neither school has to do this, pastoral staff at current school would be a good start point to help your daughter process what may happen or not. There's obviously other things at play in both of your lives that are potentially causing great stress and ultra focus on one issue.
Obviously none of us know your daughter, many of us know the intricacies of the process you find yourself in and the policies that underpin this, and some of the situation you describe simply doesn't add up.
Wishing you both well and that you are given accurate information for your circumstances very soon so that you can move forward.

@Lightuptheroom goodmorning thank you for your reply, it’s all getting a bit confusing on here which is why I said I’m not bothering with this post anymore because certain people are coming to there own conclusions,when I said about the paper the head of year had to sign it was when both my daughter and her friend left original school for the other school , the other school gave a form to fill out by the hoy of there original school to do the in year admission , that is when the hoy told my daughters friend she could Mm instead of leaving school completely, I don’t know if this is making sense to you in writing , my daughters friends mum is Ukrainian and doesn’t understand /speak much English so my daughters friend has to translate to her mum a lot of the time which is why they tell the daughter more than probably usual.

I would just like to say to certain posters on here , my daughter asked the head of year for a Mm nicely when she was upset, no one is saying he HAS to do it , he has spoken to my daughters original school and waiting to hear back from them , her current school have actually been very understanding and the assistant head has told my dd that he will do everything he can to get her back , no one is demanding anything , have a good day

I think your dd is telling you a whole load of things which she has either made up or misunderstood. Many people have said to you what you are saying doesn't make sense. There's a lot of people on this thread, including me who know how managed moves work. You don't seem to be listening.

If your dd wants to go back to her previous school then a mm is not what should be happening. The whole point of a mm is that they last for 12-16 school weeks, then the child returns to their previous school. Your child doesn't want to stay at their current school so why are you asking for a mm?

Your dd would never in a million years be asked to sign an IYAF, that is for the parent to ask to join a school on a permanent basis and that is what you should be doing and giving to the first school. Then when they get a place you'll be offered.

What you are saying and your dd is supposedly doing and asking for doesn't actually make sense for what you want the end outcome to be.

@indianwoman I'm going to disagree with one point
A managed move isn't a temporary move. Typically it's a school to school agreement lasting around 10 weeks with set targets (usually around attendance, behaviour, uniform, attitude that have to be deemed to have been 'met' by the student. Once the set targets have been met then the student is taken 'on roll' at the managed move school.
During the 10 weeks or so, the student remains on roll at their previous school (in op case the catholic school started in September) as if the managed move 'fails' for whatever reason then the student must return to this previous school.

I've seen managed moves work fantastically and I've seen them fail miserably

They are nothing to do with admissions at all and nothing to do with IYA, that's a completely separate system. The op did clarify that the form she was talking about was when her daughter moved from school A to school B so sometime ago.
They are now looking at a managed move from school C back to school A (school b didn't work out and op withdrew daughter after trying to get an in year admission to school A but being refused and being refused at appeal)

Hope that helps, with the caveat that I'm well aware that different local authorities call these things different names (what you've described we call a directed off site placement)

Hello the in year application was obviously signed by me but parts of it had to be signed filled out by the then head of year , so I gave it to my daughter to take to school so her hoy could fill in the form , I know a lot of children who have done a Mm and very rarely go back to there old school if it’s worked out for them at the new school , my dd had a appointment with camhs yesterday and the nurse has forwarded my dd to be assessed she also told me to let the school know it is affecting my dd mental health greatly, it’s not about my dd just wanting to be a pain in xxx it is affecting her health ,

I feel like your the only person who actually understands on this thread, even though I may have confused you a bit. But thank you @Lightuptheroom

You’d have to wonder why she asked to transfer out of the school in the first place, if not going back the minute she demands to is affecting her health.

Good evening all …

I thought I would update and give MY views now …

My daughter is finally back at her original school
They had no room but after speaking to the current school they wanted to give my daughter the chance to come back and be happy and learn again so they arranged a manage move ,

Her original school were more than happy to take my dd back and made sure it was done asap so she can get back to learning and being happy again after 8 months of hell ,
I would like to thank one or two posters here for there input and advice it was very helpful especially @lightuptheroom @mnchair

Id also like to say to the posters who came at me judging and jumping to conclusions and basically trying to tell me certain things were basically a lie and how it’s all mine /daughters fault that maybe you should try having some compassion sometimes and realise that when people ask for help on here you shouldn’t jump to conclusions and presume a child is naughty etc when actually she just made one very stupid decision (and I stupidly agreed) and that basically was all it was

Nobody knew this choice was going to end up the way it did and if I had known it was going to end up that way I would NEVER have agreed to it. It’s been a year of absolute misery not just for my dd but for me as well.

I’m shocked at how many people commented on here with nothing but bad vibes and decided to come to there own conclusions on my post when I felt like absolute crap and just wanted help ,

Anyway I DID IT I’ve got my daughter back, I haven’t seen her this happy in months and months and that’s all I ever wanted after months and months of many many tears and misery,

a lesson well and truly Learned and noted ,

it’s gone so quiet on this post, so many “know it alls” had so much to say when I was asking for help but it seems now it’s good news nobody has anything to say , lol what a sad bunch of people most of you are ..
anyway have a great Christmas 🎄 I certainly will 😌

Seems you want posts from the know it all posters whose comments you disliked. My view hasn't changed. I hope you remember all this when or if your dd complains that she dislikes XY or Z at the current school. You got what you and she wanted this time so undoubtedly everything will be hunky dory now. You were fortunate as your school is popular and our subscribed. Let's hope you value it this time.

Priceless...

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Yes keep laughing ,Your so sad 😂 @cansu

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I’m glad your daughter got her school place and very much hope she’ll be happy and settle there. I also hope this thread isn’t about to degenerate into a slanging match.

Thank you for you’re help @PanelChair it was really appreciated, thank you so much 💖

no it won’t this is my last post 😊thank you

Let’s hope this final move is successful and she can complete her education happily in the school she wanted to return to.