Fair access portal secondary school in year

[Myspace123]

Hi some of you might remember my post before I was doing a appeal to get my daughter back to her original school after moving her (which ended up being a big mistake) I lost the appeal and that was enough for my daughter to completely lose it and I had no choice but to de-register her from the school , she has now been home schooled for 8 weeks , this is not what we wanted and my daughter is desperate to get back to her original school still, I reapplied 1st aug for her to stay on the waiting lisT again , I keep in contact with the admissions lady at my daughters original school where she wants to go back to , she told me to go the route of fair access protocol as she has been out of school for so long . Can anyone tell me about this and if this would be any good for my daughter , she should be starting year 9 in September this is such a important year , I just need her back to school ☹️

There is no reason for him to not want her back , don’t assume

@Myspace123 I would be encouraging her to attend and behave whilst this is sorted out. Schools are not going to want to gamble on a student who isn't cooperating.
I work in a PRU and our managed moves take weeks to sort out not a matter of days. You aren't 'parenting' this. You shouldn't have let her just jump school without looking into it and you shouldn't be convincing her you can fix this. It could take months if it's rectified at all. She may end up in alternative provision if she persists.

To be fair to your daughter it wasn't really her mistake. My teenager wanted to move school to go to the same school as his then girlfriend. I said no because he was a teenager and I had the life experience to know this wasn't a good enough reason to move school.

Despite the situation she has found herself in I would be disciplining her the same for her behaviour at school as I would of this situation hadn't arisen. Not a good idea for her to think she can get what she wants by misbehaving and making herself a massive nuisance.

Where did I say she was demanding a managed move ?
she’s in the heads office crying every single day,
i appreciate certain posters advice on here but when random people pop up assuming they know everything I’d rather you just didn’t bother to comment ,
it’s not helpful and I don’t need it , thanks 😤

Yes I agree , very much my fault to and am I paying for it now, yes I am ,

You said here that she is asking for a managed move.

my daughter spoke to her head of year today and told him she wants to manage move he said there’s a waiting list for managed moves ? Is that right because I have been reading up on it and I’ve not seen anything about a waiting list for Mm 🤔, she also spoke to another teacher who told her he will call her old school tomorrow and have a chat with them about it , annoyingly she doesn’t know his name or who he is at the school but I’m presuming he must be part of the pastoral or safeguarding team 🤷🏻‍♀️ @Lightuptheroom

So her friend was on a managed move to another school. Your dd asked to follow her to the new school and you allowed it because you didn't know it was a managed move? Children on managed moves are usually children at risk of exclusion. Your dd's friend sounds like she had behaviour issues. Did you not even know this? Your dd is behaving badly. If I was a head I am not sure I would be desperate to have her back.

Your post at 9.11 on Friday said she spoke to the deputy head about managed move and he said there was a list?
So I assume she thinks it's in the offing?
I understand this is stressful for you both but from the information you have given I am not assuming anything. You let her move school with her friend...how long did her (the Friends) managed move take? Was it successful or has she returned to the original school? Is that why she wants to return? In my experience most managed moves break down and this is a school you have appealed to and are now hounding.
I wish you luck. You need a plan b though in case this does not work out. You seem fixed on her going back and that's it. But what if she can't?

@Stomacharmeleon it’s more tears she’s shedding than playing up , she’s very upset everyday, doesn’t want to go to lessons she’s anxious and worried all the time , and just generally doesn’t want to be there ,I never had this with her original school it’s not like she has always been this way it only started when she left , 🤦🏻‍♀️ and yes it is my fault and the last 8 months have been hell

If your daughters friend was moved on a managed move then it sounds like your daughter knows exactly what they are and how they work I.e moved to avoid exclusion and that is why she is acting as she is now and approaching teachers about managed moves. If she carries on down this path she may find the result is not what she wants. She might be excluded or sent to a PRU etc. Maybe look for an alternative solution that whilst not exactly what she wants is something she could cope with just in case this managed move gamble doesn't pay off.

Off site directions can't be used to jump a waiting list. If the school has a waiting list then they won't accept one. That's the rule in my authority at least.

@Myspace123 what happened to the friend?

Yes but I never said she was demanding for a Mm , and actually this school has been very helpful, the assistant head has really tried helping my dd, I would be more than happy for my dd to stay there but it’s not me it’s my dd . She won’t except any other school she just won’t give it a chance , she is only focused on going back to her old school , believe me It would make my life so much easier if she did just get on with it there,

its not even about using it to jump a list , it’s not working out at the school and I don’t see it changing and tbh I think the hoy thinks the same , but it’s interesting you say this because I rang every school in my Borough in September asking if they had space year 9 , and every single one had no space just a waiting list , and one of them schools just took a girl on a managed move from my daughters current school , even though there was a waiting list , I feel like people just make there own rules up @Expo23

Her friend went back to the original school (she asked to go back it wasn’t because she misbehaved or did anything wrong )

Bingo.

Not helpful . @Stomacharmeleon

Ah there you go. Most managed moves in my area are for a fixed term normally 12 weeks and if the child meets various behavioural targets in that period they are allowed back to their original school.

I very much doubt the friend was moved permanently then allowed back just because she asked, more likely it wasn't a permanent move in the first place.

Listen I get it but you are being blinkered in your approach and it's not helping either of you. Your daughters friend did not decide it wasn't for her and return managed moves don't work like that.
In my area managed moves are for those who are on the verge of Exclusion eg assaulting others. We approach the other schools in the Trust and try them first. I have one starting after half term... third school. Same Trust.
We never discuss with a pupil until it's a done deal as it normally means a swap. You take Peter we will have Paul. They fail regularly as kids struggle or have a label eg aggressive.
Failing that they come to us at the PRU. Initially for 6-8 weeks until we can renegotiate with a school. And let the dust settle.
You need a plan b. You have made poor decisions about her edu

Sorry.... half asleep
Poor decisions about her education led by her? She is now demanding you Reverse it and I admire you.... you have tried. Gone above and beyond but no place.
I would let the dust settle and get her back into school. Keep her on the waiting list and keep contact. Ease off a bit. If she is old enough to make grown up decisions then she needs to be patient and see what happens.
She needs to be in school or she will end up at a PRU.
I wish you luck I really do but I don't think this is a quick fix.

No it wasn’t , she went to the head of year to sign the in year move paper for the new school and when she gave him this he told her a student from that school was being managed move to there school and they can do a swap , I only found this out last week my dd friend stayed at mine and told me , but anyway that doesn’t change anything now except the fact that it’s been hell I’ve been dealing with the last 8 months @Hellocatshome

I do understand what you are saying but honestly that is what happened her best friend is like my third daughter she was at mine when she emailed her head of year and said to him she wanted to come back to school , and he said of course you can , just like that , she would be in the same position as my daughter now if he never said anything to her about swapping with this other child on a Mm , my daughter is in this school now even though it is not working out. I have tried everything possible , and I really wanted this to be a fresh start but unfortunately she won’t let it be 🤦🏻‍♀️ I could have carried on home schooling to make my life less stressful but I insisted on her getting back to school in September and to be honest she wanted to as well (but after a few days we was back on her old school again ) everyday asking where she is on the waiting list etc ) all I want is for her to get her education and be happy , the school she’s in is a outstanding school , so far they really seem to want to help her, I’m at a loss @Stomacharmeleon

She is hardly a third daughter if you didn't know why she was moving school.
And she didn't give your daughter much thought moving Back.
Anyway good luck.

well there both bloody stupid and didn’t realise what the outcome would be , and yes I’m the idiot to before the “it’s your fault brigade start”

Kids do not get mm just by emailing the head of year and signing a paper. They also don't go back to original school because they fancy it.