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Shocked by hatred of kids & parents on TES website

433 replies

kris007 · 20/02/2008 18:52

I've spent a bit of time reading the TES website which contains threads and postings from teachers and I am stunned by the level of hatred and abuse directed towards students and their parents. I am horrified to think that some of these creatures may actually be teaching my kids!
It appears that the "state of war" we read about it British classrooms is by no means one way traffic - the teachers
seem to relish getting in on the all the drama.

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theUrbanDryad · 21/02/2008 14:36

but hatrick - what if there was a parent governor's meeting going on at the next table and they heard you? wouldn't that be the same thing as venting on this public forum?

happynappies · 21/02/2008 14:38

I'm really surprised that people are so against the TES forum - there are literally forums for every kind of group/profession/interest etc - and people can express their views (subject to moderation obviously). I googled 'nursing times' and found a public forum for nurses, and also found www.dentistry.co.uk - a discussion forum for dentists was on that site... TES is a publication - it is not a 'body' that represents teaching as a whole. If people want to rant and rave on it - let them.

alfiesbabe · 21/02/2008 14:38

If there was a parent governor's meeting going on in the pub, I'd be seriously worried about the confidentiality issues involved

alfiesbabe · 21/02/2008 14:39

having said that, I know of two headteachers who interviewed and made appointments in the pub. But then that was the private sector

thedaphers · 21/02/2008 14:39

I am chuckling too! I had no idea there were other more private fora available! I have only ever contributed to two public sites and this is the second!

I used to get worked up on TES about the possibility of parents reading some of the posts. I was mainly concerned about the bawdy, lurid and semi pornographic contributions made. I was also concerned at the thought of kids reading them. I have posted similar to you, gininteacups. Maybe I have desensitised? One of the things I love about this posting game is hearing opinion different to your own and realising you may not be right! It is so healthy. I really am off now so it was nice talking to you and I hope my contributions have thrown a little light over what is a valid issue worthy of thought.

theUrbanDryad · 21/02/2008 14:42

i think what people (parents?) often forget is that teachers are HUMAN BEINGS! my own ds isn't in school yet, but i do hope that i will be able to see the teacher's POV when he does go, whilst obviously not taking the teacher's side over everything. like most things regarding kids, it's a delicate balance, and i think parents and teachers should work together, not try to battle it out!!

hatrick · 21/02/2008 14:44

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MrsPuddleduck · 21/02/2008 14:45

I am by Sweetlips (post 46)

Anyway shouldn't they be teaching at this time of day ?

pagwatch · 21/02/2008 14:46

sweetlips is the most hilarious name given her foul mouthed spouting.
Deeply ironic .

theUrbanDryad · 21/02/2008 14:53

well, it was hypothetical, hatrick. but a bad example i agree.

anyway, everyone should just chill out really!

who is sweetlips?? i'm sure we have a sweetlips here...

MrsPuddleduck · 21/02/2008 14:56

Sweetlips used children and the c word in the same sentence.

Foulmouthed doesn't come near.

In fact, if she thinks the children she teaches are C*s why the hell does she do it?

Lauriefairycake · 21/02/2008 15:01

a tale from this week in an inner city comp (from dh who is a teacher with a 1stclass Masters and a Phd from top uni's - only boasting for Xenia )

DH: "Ah Mr Bleep, we have a problem with your son today who randomly walked up to a younger girl in the corridor and shoved his fingers up her skirt into her underwear"

Mr Bleep: "She was probably asking for it, Master Bleep's a good boy, why are all you fuckers always picking on him, you fucking cunt bastard, tell me the name of the girl so I can go round and sort her out for complaining"

No, no it's all genes

It's all nurture, if you don't think so go and read Oliver James's book 'Your parents fuck you up', the research discussed in the book is very comprehensive.

LittleBella · 21/02/2008 15:11

LOL we're all rich bitches who need a proper shag living off our divorce settlements.

Sweetlips is obviously barking.

I don't think there's anything wrong with venting, but let's face it, professionals who work with children referring to them as brats, cunts or bitches is a pretty piss-poor state of affairs. We're pretty quick on mumsnet to round on other parents who refer to children in this horrible way and I don't see why anyone else should have a let-out really. Part of being a responsible adult is remembering that you're the adult, they are the child, however appalling the behaviour is. Most teachers remember that admirably (probably far more than most parents do), it's hopefully a minority of nutters who don't.

Am still pmsl at sweetlips.

hunkermunker · 21/02/2008 15:17

Denlive, if you could read... Ah, I won't go there.

I'll just wait for your apology. And no, my children aren't brats. Very far from it.

islandofsodor · 21/02/2008 15:18

Well I never though I'd find myself defending Xenia on a public forum. Someone has even suggested she might be

UNEMPLOYED!

Judy1234 · 21/02/2008 15:38

YOu can see why some of us pay to remove our children from environments with parents like that and teachers like some of those (not all) in the worst schools.

hercules1 · 21/02/2008 15:39

I should imagine sweetlips is a spotty 14 year old boy. It is half term.

MrsPuddleduck · 21/02/2008 16:02

Sorry, forgot it may be half term. (It was last week here).

In any case, haven't they got marking, endless paperwork and preparation to do. Teachers are always saying it is a lie that they get all that extra time off.

hercules1 · 21/02/2008 16:04

WIllmouse, I am a teacher and yes, I do have work to do but I am also entitled to some time off

MrsPuddleduck · 21/02/2008 16:09

Sorry Hercules, I bet you are ready for half term more than the children.

I was only having a pop at those horrible ones on TES.

hercules1 · 21/02/2008 16:12

That's okay .

hercules1 · 21/02/2008 16:12

I love my job and do enjoy the 13 weeks holidays it comes with.

parentalso · 21/02/2008 16:12

I am both a teacher and parent. I read and post on the TES website.

While a few posters there are not representative of the teaching profession in general, I believe the majority are.

Teachers on the TES tell it as it is usually, and some of the language used they would not use in the classrom.

Teachers and teaching are very variable. In some situations teaching is a question of damage limitation rather that education.

I am personally of the view that schools and teachrs should not be required to pick up the pieces for failed parenting.

Too often, when one sees and hears the parents, it becomes clear why the pupil is the way they are. I do not however think that it should be the responsibility of the teacher to resolve issues of bad parenting, and most issues of behaviour stem from poor parenting. Poor parenting comes in many shapes and sizes too.

Kif · 21/02/2008 16:14

Did anyone see the G2 article about the airline pilot's forum? That sounded highly entertaining - if you never intend to fly again!

Blandmum · 21/02/2008 16:18

Pprune is the pilots one