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'My son was expelled for telling the truth' - Sunday Times

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MimiDul · 23/06/2019 07:36

'School bullied my son for telling truth about drugs’

The only GCSE pupil honest enough to admit drug-taking during an investigation at a top private school was forced out earlier this year — while the 34 boys who stayed silent were allowed to remain.

Today, Julian Dodds, the father of the 16-year-old, has gone public to highlight what he says is gross injustice because of the widespread variation in how private schools handle drug-taking among pupils; he says the practice is at “epidemic levels” among teenagers. The case comes more than two decades after the same school, Whitgift, in Croydon, south London, was criticised for taking a similarly hardline approach, expelling 10 pupils for smoking cannabis.

Whitgift told the 16-year old he would have to leave in February, just a few months before he was due to take nine GCSEs. The teenager was one of 35 boys interrogated by teachers in the school for several hours after a tip-off by other pupils about an alleged drugs problem. Parents whose sons refused to take a drugs test were also called in and quizzed during what was called “Operation Swoop”.

The boys were interrogated in five different rooms and told that “things would go better for them if they wrote an admission statement of what substances they had ever taken”.

Dodds’s son said he had tried marijuana and “some pills”, though not on the school premises.

“My boy was the only one to tell the truth and for that he got kicked out of school,” said his father. “Why are schools allowed to bully kids in this way when drug use is widespread among teenagers, particularly at private schools? Some boys at the school have a bingo card on which they tick off all the drugs they have tried.

“The Whitgift boys get targeted by drug dealers on the train they travel to school on. This is the issue: how do you tackle drug use among teenagers when police have largely given up?”

The Dodds family were given a choice between withdrawing their son or attending a meeting with the headmaster, Chris Ramsey, at which they were warned that their son could be expelled. They chose to withdraw him.

The school, to which they had paid about £90,000 for five years’ tuition, said he could come back there to sit his exams if no other school place could be found for him. He revised at home with the help of private tutors, and returned to Whitgift to sit his exams.

Whitgift said: “After long consideration, a student was asked to leave the school four months ago after an investigation . . . pupils and parents are aware that the school cannot tolerate involvement with drugs and the safety of all our pupils is our primary concern. The presence of drugs [among] young people is a societal issue that can ruin lives.”

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Walkaround · 23/06/2019 13:22

Saying there is no need to attend a meeting if you withdraw a child from the school, if that is what really happened, is a massive cop out by the school - deliberately trying to get rid of the problem asap rather than deal with it.

BoneyBackJefferson · 23/06/2019 17:37

Walkaround

So if the father was told they have more evidence against his ds than a confession, going to the press was a somewhat odd choice.

Its not that odd when you realise that so many people are happy to blame the school on the basis of half a story.

Teddybear45 · 23/06/2019 17:42

The truth was the boy was caught doing drugs.

BoneyBackJefferson · 23/06/2019 17:49

Teddybear45
The truth was the boy was caught doing drugs.

We don't know that either.

Walkaround · 23/06/2019 19:22

BoneyBackJefferson - yes, it is such an odd choice, because if the father knows there was loads of evidence against his son but not against any of the other children, why would he be publicising the case in the newspapers at all?

AveEldon · 23/06/2019 19:41

I hope his son agreed to the newspaper article
Although he is not named - prior to this he would have been able to explain away his school move at 16 - more tricky now

BoneyBackJefferson · 23/06/2019 20:00

Walkaround

The father also knows that the only story that will be heard is the one that he tells the press.

So not so strange.

EvaHarknessRose · 23/06/2019 20:09

One of The Times columnists writes that the father posted this story as a comment under one of her pieces, under his real name but not naming the school. He then agreed to do this piece once sons GCSEs were completed. So he may have not originally intended to go so public, but then for whatever reason did.

AlaskanOilBaron · 23/06/2019 20:22

I hope his son agreed to the newspaper article

He's a 15 or 16 year old boy, not old enough to comprehend the implications of this decision. If the father was in fact serving some greater good, which is dubious, then he did so at the expense of his son's privacy.

What a shame.

trinitybleu · 23/06/2019 21:01

I went to public school. In 1st form we had people expelled for dealing. It's not a new phenomenon. The kids have the cash to do everything other kids want to do, just a lot younger.

Walkaround · 23/06/2019 21:21

BoneyBackJefferson - still seems strange to me. What does he gain from naming his son in the National press?

MimiDul · 23/06/2019 21:31

The father's name and school means that even the boy's siblings can be identified. It seems South London is smaller than I realised. It's a shame the father chose to do this. The boy did his GCSEs at Whitgift and he could have moved to another school or sixth form college without a whiff of a problem. I suspect Whitgift would have provided him with a decent reference too. No school wants to ruin the future of their pupil especially as it seems a high performing one. The school had no choice but to ask him to leave. They cannot be seen to be encouraging drug use and apparently it is well known that the school is very harsh with suspected drug users and good on them really. I doubt any of the others involved will be allowed to continue at Whitgift after their GCSEs.
It's sad that the feeling that his son had been treated unfairly put daddy bear's primitive brain in control.

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AlaskanOilBaron · 23/06/2019 21:37

It's sad that the feeling that his son had been treated unfairly put daddy bear's primitive brain in control.

Is the continuing use of 'daddy' an attempt to characterise the boy as overly privileged? I've always wondered, I find it pretty silly.

Oblomov19 · 23/06/2019 21:38

Eh? What's he being expelled for? For telling the truth? For not lying?

Not that any of us are condoning drug taking. But he took it at a party. Not on school premises. What possible school rule has he broken.

I totally understand the fathers objection. It would seem that his don has been totally scapegoated.

BoneyBackJefferson · 23/06/2019 21:47

Walkaround
still seems strange to me. What does he gain from naming his son in the National press?

Sympathy, would be my guess.

When you look through the thread you see comments about him being "scapegoated", "he has only learnt to lie", "the others got away with it"etc.

MimiDul · 23/06/2019 21:49

Mummy bear, daddy bear. Moving on...

That's the thing though he wasn't expelled, he was off-rolled. It really didn't need to be in the papers. I understand the father's anger but the school isn't free. He was paying Whitgift a substantial amount of money to educate his child. He can send his son to a number of brilliant schools with that money and the boy is very bright. He will do just as well elsewhere. So now that he has this in the papers what good will it do the boy or other boys at Whitgift? I can't really see the good in the course of action he has chosen. Perhaps I am wrong and I am prepared to admit that if that's the case.

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BoneyBackJefferson · 23/06/2019 21:49

Oblomov19

From reading through the thread and the paper reports, it would seem that he wasn't expelled, his parents withdrew him.

What possible school rule has he broken.

We will never know because daddy isn't going to tell us.

Oblomov19 · 23/06/2019 21:50

Does the article actually name the son? Only the dad?

Walkaround · 23/06/2019 21:56

BoneyBackJefferson - sympathy from people he'll never meet?! I don't think so. He no doubt has plenty of sympathy already from his friends.

Walkaround · 23/06/2019 21:58

Seems to me the reason he has gone public is that he thinks the school's method of dealing with it is 100% ineffective at putting boys off taking drugs and teaches them merely to lie about it and cover it up.

Carrymybag · 23/06/2019 22:05

This school is lazy as humanly possible. There were 34 other kids. This school is too concerned about their reputation above all. I go to this school, and I have to say that they were lazy in their conduction. To be completely honest they care so little about the students well fare itself, it’s not a surprise that they did resort to drugs. People get constantly bullied, it’s actually quite ridiculous. But it truly saddens me as I have witnessed first hand the disregard teachers give to the students. But to stick on topic, the boy in question was a scapegoat for the colossal wreck which was this ‘investigation’ of you can call it that

BoneyBackJefferson · 23/06/2019 22:13

Walkaround
Seems to me the reason he has gone public is that he thinks the school's method of dealing with it is 100% ineffective at putting boys off taking drugs and teaches them merely to lie about it and cover it up

but you don't actually know and that is the point that I am making.
There is far to little information to know what actually went on, and posters are putting forward their own bias as fact, when it is just an opinion.

Walkaround · 24/06/2019 08:43

But BoneyBackJefferson - I do know thinking he is doing it for "sympathy" is ridiculous... And if his son was allowed to withdraw from the school but come back for exams, then that in itself is hardly the hard line the school claims, either. 34 boys suspected and 1 withdrawn from the school (not expelled) but allowed back to sit exams. Sounds pretty ineffectual to me. I presume he wasn't found to be the source of the drugs, or surely he would have been expelled and not allowed back?! So the story that he just admitted to having taken drugs rings true to me in terms of the punishment!! Which takes us back to the fact that the school knows it has a drug problem and has found a convenient scapegoat to make it look like it has done something effectual when it hasn't, it has just made the life of the boy who was more honest than the others more difficult. So lesson learned is still very clearly: don't tell the truth when asked.

Waterloo · 24/06/2019 12:11

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PCohle · 24/06/2019 13:44

I'm sure it's well intentioned, but is circulating this letter on the Internet respecting the head's decision not to speak to the press, or his/her request for privacy for the family concerned?