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11+ score check

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Fifi04 · 02/04/2019 13:33

Hi. Is it possible check my son score - I think of course is to low?! :-((( He made nv and v reasoning on Wandsworth and last month he was very sad because his score is to low for Chestnut. I'm angry as well because I prepared him over one 1!! Every day, every second day he make bond tests about 0.5-1h. He got tutor over one 1 as well! He made huge progress and now ... Day before Wandsworth test I gave him 11-12+ and hi score was about 95%!! Girl who's got tutoring with him and usually they got similar score - she made 30pkt more! My son was crying that his score got kids under national average ;-) I don't want and I don't like compare people - especially kids but for me look like my son lost one page of test! Any chance for look his test or check again??
Thanks for any help

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titchy · 10/04/2019 23:04

if U want know why I'm ask about re-marked test check all this chat.

And if you want to know why his score is irrelevant read the answers. He hasn't got a place because you live too far away. NOT BECAUSE OF HIS TEST SCORE.

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Fifi04 · 12/04/2019 13:38

Do U got any problem??? With understanding or with reading or maybe U just looking problem??? I asked about remarked test not about school admission!!! I know can be difficult for some person knows that make mistakes but please stop write about distance I don't care about distance about school admission I'm worry about all test score, procedures, appeal sbout score, strange is that nobody can see copy!! U can not improve score in second test - now U understand???

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LIZS · 12/04/2019 14:04

But what is the point of appealing a score if it makes no difference to the outcome.

MarchingFrogs · 12/04/2019 14:25

No, you(r DS) cannot take the test again, to improve his score or for any other reason. You could try explaining to Wandsworth Council that they are running their Year 6 Test all wrong, of course, you never know, it might work.

If your DS attends a state primary school, he will be sitting SATs next month. You don't get to take those again if you fail to get the scores mummy wanted you to get, either. To prepare for the unlikely event that the DfE fails to take on board your submission that this is all wrong, too, please practise getting over that one now...

Sweetnhappy1 · 12/04/2019 14:45

Fifi in your first post you said his score was too low to get Chestnut. That's why we are all explaining that you do not get into Chestnut on score. Did you mean to say Graveney? Do you feel that his score was much lower than you expected for Graveney? Some children score less on this paper if they accidentally mark their answer in the wrong column e.g. if they accidentally miss a question and then put the pencil mark in the wrong column for the rest of the questions. Could this have happened?

PatriciaHolm · 12/04/2019 15:29

You cannot appeal the score.

He cannot sit the test again.

His score makes, and made, no difference to his life. It made no impact on the school he was allocated.

You will never know why he scored what he did, whether he made simple errors or something else has happened.

but it doesn't matter. It has had no impact on his school.

PettsWoodParadise · 12/04/2019 18:23

So OP you say you don’t care about the school admission then why this thread? Is it is just about the test result which others have taken huge pains to explain to you will make no difference to the application as you live too far away? But with banding tests you don’t get the score or that is my understanding.

I just don’t understand why you want the test remarked when you know it will make no difference. Even if your DS got the top most score your DS didn’t get in based on distance. Do you understand that even if you were to get it remarked it would make no difference to the application as the admissions process for Chestnut is NOT based on score but on banding? You seem to answer every question with stating people who are trying to help you don’t understand but you haven’t answered any questions that might shed light on why you are really seeking this remark.

Have you found out from the school which band your DS was put into? Have you found out from the school where your DS is on the wait list for that band and how far by distance you were out from a first round offer?

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Fifi04 · 23/04/2019 06:18

That is the question!!!

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Fifi04 · 23/04/2019 06:27

This was point why we practice test over 1 year!! I wanted prepare my kids to any problem which can appear but something went wrong I think that my son school do nothing at the moment just sats test every day sats test! No education- just tests!
For me is little bit strange that U R not surprised that u can not see copy of the test or U can not make test again - it look like perfect machine!

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meditrina · 23/04/2019 06:31

What is the question?

Because if it's about the issues in the previous post, then it should all be in the rejection letter.

If you want to ask about the administration of the Wandsworth test, and are not happy with the initial response, then contact your local councillor. But what exactly would you be lobbying for

Soontobe60 · 23/04/2019 06:38

Gigi, just because the test system in England is different from that in your home country doesn't give you the right to be so rude!
You have raised your sons expectations and are now disappointed that he didn't score as well as you hoped. You think there must be something wrong with the actual marking of the test. You cannot accept that he may well have just not scored as high as you think he should. Guess what, that's life! You need to forget about these tests now, because all this rubbish you're going on about will do nothing but upset your son.

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Fifi04 · 23/04/2019 07:07

Sometime U don't want say everything - if I ask about remark test, people can ask about council and school so I gave those information but I ask about remark test - just this. I'm completely surprised that here (in England) people look like giveupers (I think this words doesn't exist) - like I don't care... sometimes make like this is ok but sometimes U can not!! In my country (I don't want back there so I still (try) teach England) - in my country when good pupil's score is very low - his teacher appeal or goes council and check test copy!! Pupils can improve test few days letter if they are not happy of score! Here some people laugh that score is not important - more important is open mouth very wide - arguing!! Arguing make miracles!! When I hear advice: call council!! Call again!! Arguing!!
Of course i saw Few school admission rules but I think (my mistake) that kids who's mum working at school get few more points no access to the school straight away!! The same with older siblings! Just add to his test score few points!! For me is nepotism!! It sound no good!!
U can not see test!! U can not see copy!!! U can not remarke test!! U can not make test again!!! better is move your house close to the school then spend money and time on teaching!! Or just push first kids and next kids get anchor and can go to the school straight away!!
Those everything sounds irrationally and illogically!! Sounds strange!! I don't want say more because...

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Gettingthroughtheweek · 23/04/2019 09:16

I think I remember our Wandsworth school Head saying the school (but not the parent) could ask to review a paper if the results looked really odd, but he also said that where eg there might have been a problem with filling in the sheet they were looked at by hand so it’s not all down to the computer. But as others have said all Wandsworth admissions are done scrupulously based on the admissions criteria so the score in the test is not enough by itself (except for Graveney, Ernesto bevin and Burntwood). For all others it is based on distance from the school within the relevant ability band. We also live too far away to get into CG on any of the bands, even if a DC scored 100% - that’s just the way it works. It’s not about giving up - it’s just accepting those are the rules.

meditrina · 23/04/2019 12:02

I think you are confused about the nature of admissions.

You don't 'add points'

Chestnut Grove has 60 superselective arts and MFL places, then a further 120 in 5 ability bands, and the purpose of the Wandsworth test is to assign a pupil to one of the bands. The tie-breaker within each band is:

Children Looked After
Social and Medical needs (with supporting professional evidence)
Siblings
Children of staff who have worked at the school for two years or have been appointed to a hard to fill vacancy.
Distance

No-one is given extra point, they are ordered within their band according to those priorities (all of which are permissible under the Admissions Code).

The bottom line is that you lived too far away to qualify in any of the bands this year. Though you might get a place via the waiting list.

It is certainly more likely that a school wouid be granted a remark. If they thought something truly anomalous had happened, and if it made a difference to securing a first round allocation. But it's always a no to parents. So if you desperately want a remark, even though it would make no difference to your DC's offer, then ask the school to intervene.

Do bear in mind that if he is rebanded, whether up or down, you might find there is a longer waiting list in the new band than where you are currently sitting.

titchy · 23/04/2019 12:24

Why didn't you apply for one of the arts places?

titchy · 23/04/2019 12:26

And yes as mediteina points out, if you did somehow manage to get his test remarked and he moved into another band, he may well be further down the waiting list on the new band.

And people here are trying to help. Your posts indicate you don't understand how admissions work in England, or your English isn't clear enough. No need to be so rude.

Gizlotsmum · 23/04/2019 12:34

Have you tried the 11+ forum? They may have more experience of appeals/challenging results

MarchingFrogs · 23/04/2019 14:55

Have you tried the 11+ forum? They may have more experience of appeals/challenging results

But by all acvounts, the OP hasn't actually applied for a school where the magnitude of the score matters in itself and they live too far away to have gained a place at the school they wanted, whichever band the boy was in. The answer on any other forum where respondents are either familiar with the LEA and schools in question, or take the time to look them up, is going to be the same, one would surmise.

Gizlotsmum · 23/04/2019 15:03

Op isn't hearing what she wants to hear on this post, I am sure the 11+ forum will say the same but they have more experience and experts so she may believe them.

Mustbetimeforachange · 23/04/2019 22:18

OP you clearly don't understand how the system works. People have tried to explain it to you.
They have to follow the published rules. Those are that the tests puts him into a band. Changing bands may make no difference, make him higher on the list, or indeed lower. Once he is in a band they have to follow the published criteria.

Gizlotsmum · 24/04/2019 09:54

I suspect op just wants her sons paper checked to make sure the score is correct (and they didn't lose a page as she suspects). However the system is pretty thorough and if anything like the 11+ here the score isn't linear so a 30 mark difference isn't x wrong numbers as they take month of birth into account and standardise the score.

PettswoodParadise · 24/04/2019 10:42

But this is NOT an 11+ test, it is a banding test. Score does NOT matter except where some bands go out marginally further than others but you would be put in one band or another, there is no pass or fail.

OP has failed to find out how far her DS missed out on distance as she is obsessed with score and so is focussing on the wrong issue. Even if a page is lost and they get put in the 'wrong' band if they are too far awau it makes no difference. If they were in distance the school is continually re-assessing and move you up and down sets so score is not the main issue here, it is that the OP lives too far away.

Gizlotsmum · 24/04/2019 11:06

Ah my misunderstanding. I assumed 11+ which the op refers too worked the same. The op is still asking if she can get her sons paper rechecked even if it won't change the outcome.

MarchingFrogs · 24/04/2019 11:38

The score does matter for some Wandsworth partially selective schools, though?

Just not the particular one that they have applied for...

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