How do i stop my little man form doing things backwards?

[Athena404]

Recently I noticed my son has been doing alot of things the wrong way round. For example he reads was as saw, draws 5s as 2s, his rs are backwards, and will occasionally write a word like drow. He didn't used to do this and now he's doing it increasingly. Is there something I should be doing to help him stop? I don't even think he realises he does it

faithless the one consistent thing in all research papers has been failure to read and spell. If you can be a good reader and dyslexic then your diagnoser's dyslexia is not the researchers' dyslexia and that is the problem in a nutshell.

Fwiw the difficulties you describe sound like what I understand as executive functioning and working memory difficulties. These often occur in dyslexic people, but as I understood it if the person us able to read and spell well then what they have us executive functioning and working memory difficulties, not dyslexia....because the core features of dyslexia are the failure to read and spell.

Bloody autocorrect keeps changing 'is' to 'us'. Sorry.

Myth 8: Dyslexia is a visual problem - dyslexics see words backwards, letters reversed or moving around.
Facts: Prof. Vellutino showed this was incorrect when he ''asked dyslexic and non dyslexic American children to re-produce Hebrew letters none of them had seen before... the poor readers performed as well as the normal readers in reproducing Hebrew letters from memory...Absolutely no differences between the two groups. If anything the normal readers made more errors than the poor readers, so the poor readers could see the materials as well as the normal readers'' (Mills. The Dyslexia Myth) ''Teams from Bristol and Newcastle universities carried out eye tests on more than 5,800 children and did not find any differences in the vision of those with dyslexia...Where there were dyslexic children with eye problems, the occurrence was no more likely than for non-dyslexics, the study found. And a large majority of dyslexic children were defined as having "perfect vision"

Myth 6: Dyslexics don't just have very inaccurate reading and spelling; other signs are used to identify dyslexia such as poor short-term memory, sequencing problems and rapid naming deficits (RAN). The number and type of difficulties vary from one dyslexic person to another, as does the severity.
Facts: These are 'soft' signs - not based on data that is readily quantifiable or amenable to experimental verification.''Forget about letter reversals, clumsiness, inconsistent hand preference and poor memory - these are commonly found in people without reading difficulties, and in poor readers not considered to be dyslexic'' (Elliott .TES) ''(D)yslexia has been linked erroneously to left-handedness, balance deficits, persistence of infant reflexes, visual perceptual abnormalities and nutritional deficiencies'' (Snowling. BDA website news17) ''The fact that RAN (rapid automatic naming tasks) using digits and letters predict reading so much better than RAN colours and objects do, means that naming speed per se is not a factor in learning to read.'' (D.McGuinness LDLR p388) ''Naming objects and colours is a truer reflection of natural or biological based ability'' (D. McGuinness WCCR p131) Many so-called dyslexia symptoms such as b/d confusion and word reversal are simply the consequence of poor literacy teaching and lack of practice.

Mrs the evidence is that I'm dyslexic - I struggle with sequencing, short term memory, reading time tables, remembering phone numbers, self organization/sorting
Honestly what are you on about? And no of course I didn't pay for my diagnosis my college did

^^

this is me, except 1st test paid for myself, second by a uni I was attending, third by a college. All done by educational psychologists, all said dyslexic.

At uni I had a specialist teacher to help me organise things (1 hour a week for a term) who also talked about the organisation.

I'm not suggesting that people aren't dyslexic (I don't know you) what I'm saying is that letter and word reversals aren't symptoms of Dyslexia although like the rest of the population (who aren't dyslexic ) some will reverse Letters and words. They don't reverse because they are dyslexic and they aren't dyslexic because they reverse ...that's all.

Well this just turned in to a fight

Sorry OP but I think it's irresponsible for people to jump to the conclusion your child needs a doctor because he's doing what is perfectly normal

Athena I think it's an interesting discussion, not a fight. The key thing is, your DS is very likely completely fine 😊
It has got a bit derailed into a discussion about dyslexia. I think it illustrates that there is still a big issue around defining dyslexia, wherever people might sit in terms of their own view that does seem pretty clear! There is no public consensus on dyslexia.

I think it's perfectly normal at his age but how does he know when he's made a mistake? Do you point it out to him? Just reassure him that he will get it right eventually. He's too young to worry about this.

By the way, not being nasty, but you put form instead of from in your thread title!

Obviously he can see if he goes wrong or a sentence doesn't make sense

Maybe IABU to be saying this, but I always suspected if you are on spectrum yourself, mrz? (I know it runs in family, my ds is suspected to be, and assume I am too.)
I feel really bad when you are misunderstood by posters when you are only trying to help. But your comment sometimes seems too...I don't know what to say, but black and white, 100% or 0 %, etc, there's no in between and it does hurt our feelings sometimes and sound rude.
I am saying this because I respect you and admire you. Sorry for being rude.

Twist and shout, it sounds to me more like you're describing dyspraxia.

If you did suspect that your child was dyslexic, you would speak to the SENCO at their school for an assessment by an educational psychologist, not go to the GP.
School wold not do this before Year Two, possibly year three.

I suspect you're correct Irvine (I'd self diagnosis as having tendencies although I'm very different in real life )
I feel very strongly about the volume of misinformation bandied around to the detriment of children's futures and I'm sorry if people don't like it when I challenge myths but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I have enough sleepless nights worrying about those failed by such nonsense.

@oldbirdy they are dyslexic and were diagnosed while at university. School ignored the issues at primary due to the fact they could read and spell, I think she said that her mum had raised an issue with reading as in sentence structure wasn't exactly as written.

In whole language it was (still is) acceptable to misread sentences in fact it was viewed as the child demonstrating understanding and applauded ... some argue that expecting accuracy is wrong

Getting things backwards is a normal part of trying to read/write a writing system that you aren't very good at yet. It does not mean there is something wrong with you.

I went overseas and learned a language with a non-alphabetic writing system when I was 22. Guess what--I constantly got characters the wrong way round, and I have no dyslexic traits whatsoever and learned to read and write English very easily as a child.

I don't even think he realises he does it
He gets upset whenever he realises he's made a mistake
Obviously he can see if he goes wrong or a sentence doesn't make sense
These sentences are contradictory though.

... how?

If he can spot his mistakes then he is quite advanced.
His real problem is getting quite upset over his mistakes. Mistakes are how we learn, and should be seen as a positive learning opportunity not something to get upset about.
How do you point out his mistakes? Does he correct them?
He seems to be doing a lot for a child not even at school yet.
My DC preferred writing on whiteboards as their mistakes were not permanent. We also did them writing letters on paper stuck to the wall while I wrote the same letter with my finger on their back.

OP - I work with teenagers with dyslexia. What you're describing isn't dyslexia, especially at this age.

Also, my youngest DS has just finished Reception. He came through as exceeding expectations in every area. His writing of '5' is, 8/10 times the wrong way around, and he's just started writing 'g' the wrong way around too, despite always having written it correctly. I'm not worried. If I point it out, he gets really upset (he's a perfectionist), so instead I will later demonstrate writing 5s as an unrelated thing. He's right handed.

Eldest DS is left handed, to the extreme of doing everything the 'wrong way' - he used to pedal his bike backwards, and constantly did mirror writing. By the middle of Year 1 the writing wasn't an issue...but it did take him longer to ride a bike