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Once they've hit their early learning goals then what?

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SkyWalker95 · 26/07/2017 20:44

Just received my son's latest progress report. For half the early learning goals its the normal this is where he's at, this is his next target to work on. But the others say he has achieved the early learning goals so there is nothing for him to work on. Is he just supposed to not have any goals for the next couple of years? That doesn't seem right. What's the next thing after ELGs? Shouldn't he just be on that?

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mrz · 31/07/2017 20:02

There are very good reasons that maths reading and writing aren't considered Prime areas of learning in the early years and why the Prime areas are assessed at 36 months.

SkyWalker95 · 31/07/2017 20:08

What?

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MumTryingHerBest · 31/07/2017 20:12

SkyWalker95 I'm impressed that you can sit and listen to 50 Chip, Biff & Kipper books per week. Fortunately, at 50 books a week, I don't think you would have to endure them for long.

MumTryingHerBest · 31/07/2017 20:19

SkyWalker95 What?

Not sure who this is directed at?

mrz · 31/07/2017 20:33

I think it was to my post about Prime areas

The reason that maths reading and writing aren't Prime areas is because they are a very poor indicator of future academic success whereas dispositions and attitudes and self control among other factors have been shown to be vitally important.

mrz · 31/07/2017 20:37

"Why the prime areas are ‘prime’
As emphasised in the original Tickell review of the EYFS, the prime areas are fundamental to children's successful learning in the specific areas. The specific areas cannot be encountered in isolation from communication and language or personal, social, emotional and physical development since children always experience the world through communication and physical and sensory involvement. A strong foundation in the prime areas is essential as evidence shows that, if it is not securely in place by age five, it holds children back in other areas of learning and development."
As your child isn't demonstrating this,according to your posts, the nursery will be focusing on these essential areas of development.

SkyWalker95 · 31/07/2017 21:05

MumTryingHerBest I'm actually dreading the day he doesn't want to read to me and talk about the stories anymore. Oh and the what wasn't directed at you

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MumTryingHerBest · 31/07/2017 21:15

MumTryingHerBest I'm actually dreading the day he doesn't want to read to me

DC1 has never read to me very much. At primary level it was a struggle to get them to read even one page aloud. There were quite a few DCs like yours at DC1s primary (over 1/2 the year group). Your DC sounds like a hard worker but not an outlier.

MumTryingHerBest · 31/07/2017 21:25

SkyWalker95 dreading the day he doesn't want to read to me and talk about the stories anymore.

The Biff, Chip & and Kipper books really don't offer much scope for discussion.

Have you tried beast Quest which quite a few children were reading in yr 1?

SkyWalker95 · 31/07/2017 21:49

He actually don't read the BC&K ones that often (just 1 or 2 a day) these days as he just got the load that come after them, the mini alien ones, I can't for the life of me remember what it's called. And the walker first chapter books. That being said I just googled beast quest and my local book shop sells them so it's worth a look, thanks

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mrz · 01/08/2017 07:19

https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED437177 "The three key research components of the project are to: (1) define the early characteristics of life long learners, focusing on "Advancement Attributes," attitudes, dispositions, and inclinations;"

SkyWalker95 · 01/08/2017 12:49

Again, what?

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sirfredfredgeorge · 01/08/2017 13:02

Again, the areas your child has hit the ELGs are the least important, and what happens next is that nursery devotes all its time to the most important - the PRIME.

There's no need to push even further on the specific areas, and it may even be harmful if the prime are neglected. That is why there are no more next steps for the specific areas, he may well be on target to hit them, but they should be the focus. Hitting the specific areas before the prime sounds also like it's a spiky profile, since normally the specific come out of good prime development, rather than the reverse.

SkyWalker95 · 01/08/2017 13:11

Do you even hear yourself right now?

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jennielou75 · 01/08/2017 13:37

Basically what they are trying to tell you is that all the qualifications in the world will not help if you do not have the skills and aptitude to complete an interview. There is much more to life than what you know. Knowing how to use it to improve your life or others is as important.

mrz · 01/08/2017 14:11

Sky your child by your own description your child isn't meeting expectations in the Prime areas of the EYFS. The foundations of future learning. I'm aware you don't want to hear anything other than how wonderful it is they are so advanced in maths and English but at this stage they aren't important.
I'd hope the setting will focus on what's important for your child to succeed as it's clear you don't want to know.

SkyWalker95 · 01/08/2017 16:42

Except he is. People are just trying to hate on a 3 year old for no reason, it's ridiculous 🙄

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HorridHenrietta23 · 01/08/2017 17:12

Please sky, quote the part in the thread where somebody says they hate your three your old son??

SkyWalker95 · 01/08/2017 17:16

I don't think you understand what to hate on means

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mrz · 01/08/2017 17:21

No one hates your child quite the opposite! They are trying to point out that your priorities should be to support him to develop in the Prime areas so that he participates in story time when it isn't his book being read and in group time when it's something he isn't interested in and doesn't wander off and break things to see how they work.

mrz · 01/08/2017 17:24

And certainly no one is jealous of your child or criticising him just trying to make you see that your focus on academic development is to his detriment. I hope his setting give him appropriate support.

SkyWalker95 · 01/08/2017 17:30

I'm getting bored of the stupidity now

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mrz · 01/08/2017 17:34

No you're getting bored because people aren't agreeing with you

SkyWalker95 · 01/08/2017 17:38

Learn to read past the first few posts and then we can talk. If not bye.

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mrz · 01/08/2017 17:44

Learn to listen to people who have years of experience and set an example for your son then he might not wander away when it's not something he wants to hear.

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