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Once they've hit their early learning goals then what?

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SkyWalker95 · 26/07/2017 20:44

Just received my son's latest progress report. For half the early learning goals its the normal this is where he's at, this is his next target to work on. But the others say he has achieved the early learning goals so there is nothing for him to work on. Is he just supposed to not have any goals for the next couple of years? That doesn't seem right. What's the next thing after ELGs? Shouldn't he just be on that?

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Mistoffelees · 31/07/2017 11:35

But it is wrong for him to break things and wander off from story time and for you not to encourage him to understand that we look after belongings and that sometimes the expectation will be that he joins in whole group activities.

SkyWalker95 · 31/07/2017 11:45

He loves story time now he gets to read his own book. He doesn't actually break things he takes them apart, he likes to see how things work, and he enjoys group activities when it's something that interests him ie football, Spanish. Again he's 3. I wouldn't expect him to sit through a database lecture or force him to watch childrens TV. That's madness

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HorridHenrietta23 · 31/07/2017 11:56

Right so basically so long as he's getting his own way then he's perfect hey op?
Ok lovely. I'm not "crazy" for thinking he's behind in other ways, you said in your other thread that he was causing problems in nursery.
Oh and broken, or taken apart to see how it works... Unless he's told he can do this then he needs to have more respect, the object is still destroyed at the end of the day.
But fine, if you want to raise a clever child who struggles in school because he only does things because he feels like it, then go ahead!!

SkyWalker95 · 31/07/2017 12:10

You've seriously got issues if you think it's ok to hate on a 3 year old because he likes words and numbers. He's the most polite kid their, maybe you could learn a thing or two from him.

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FlowerFairyLights · 31/07/2017 12:15

You're not listening are you? it's not hating on him :( Being super bright won't get you anywhere without social skills and many kids who haven't been hot housed will catch up!!!

HorridHenrietta23 · 31/07/2017 12:25

Um but I'm not hating him I've never met him, I'm just not telling you what you want to hear.
Yes your son sounds great, bright and inquisitive.
However YOU are the one saying that he wanders off at story time unless he's allowed to choose his own book and that he breaks things to see how they work and that he doesn't understand that this is naughty.
But the thing is that it is your job as a parent to teach him that whether or not he is the cleverest in the room, he needs to be respectful of others and not wander off because an activity doesn't just suit him or break things because he's inquisitive.
But I'm not being hateful in saying this, many three year olds do wander off, refuse to join in and break things..... That's why we need to try to teach them not to before they start school.
Op you have called me crazy and told me I have issues because I'm expressing an opinion that is different from yours. I won't be replying again as I don't come on here for a fight. Good luck to you and your ds.

SkyWalker95 · 31/07/2017 12:28

1 Not being hot housed
2 again politest kid there

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user789653241 · 31/07/2017 13:33

See what I mean?

Op, next time you decided to post, please let us know in the beginning, that you are not asking for any advice, and have no respect for fellow posters who are only trying to help.

user789653241 · 31/07/2017 13:39

Let 2 year old do 15 work books, or let him read 50 books a week is hot housing, imo.
And polite child would listen to teacher and don't wander off, and don't break things that doesn't belong to him.

SkyWalker95 · 31/07/2017 14:11

Go away if you aren't going to be helpful

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user789653241 · 31/07/2017 14:22

Will do!Grin

sirfredfredgeorge · 31/07/2017 14:31

He's not in a school setting, the job of the ELGs is to prepare him for a school setting, that means all the focus is on addressing the areas where he's not ready.

A destructive, distracted child is not ready for school, the nursery would be severely remiss to waste time further re-enforcing skills that he has already mastered and enjoys when he is not ready for school.

You need to prepare him for school, not English and Maths.

SkyWalker95 · 31/07/2017 14:42

Take a moment to read back and realise how you went wrong

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mrz · 31/07/2017 16:28

From what you've written on the two threads your child isn't meeting expectations in the EYFS Prime areas or demonstrating Characteristics of Effective Learning I'm afraid. As a teacher I would be concerned with the spiky profile you are describing.

SkyWalker95 · 31/07/2017 16:45

Well the professionals disagree with you clearly ...

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Mistoffelees · 31/07/2017 17:16

Which professionals SkyWalker? Literally all of the teachers who have commented have mentioned how important the other areas are and polite does not equal good social skills

SkyWalker95 · 31/07/2017 17:27

His... Like I said he's atleast on target for everything

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GplanAddict · 31/07/2017 17:54

Blimey!

MumTryingHerBest · 31/07/2017 17:58

SkyWalker95 Mon Like I said he's atleast on target for everything

I'm not sure what you're expecting people to say. You clearly stated in your OP that your DS has met half of their the early learning goals. Are you assuming that the other half will be met within a few weeks of starting in reception?

Perhaps it might be a good idea to wait and see if that is, in fact, the case before raising the issue of "what next"?

(I'm a little curious which books your 2/3 year old is reading if they are getting through 50 a week).

SkyWalker95 · 31/07/2017 18:21

MumTryingHerBest he's got a whole year before he goes in to reception and like I've said he's on or about target for the rest but my query was about those he had finished. 50 isn't that much, it's less than 10 a day and the only reason I would stop him reading is if it was past his bedtime. He likes to go sit in his fortress and read

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FlowerFairyLights · 31/07/2017 18:29

I'd be encouraging other activities rather than focusing where he's already able. And to broaden g is education.

MumTryingHerBest · 31/07/2017 18:35

SkyWalker95 but my query was about those he had finished.

So if it isn't measured, they won't progress? As I said, wait and see before asking what next.

As to 50 a week being "isn''t that much", very much depends on what they are reading, hence the reason I'm curious.

Personally, I would stop them reading if they weren't doing anything else. With DC1 in seconary school, it is quite clear that all round development is important. Maths and English are just two subjects, they will be studying a lot more in secondary school and a high ability DC will also have high targets to reach in music, art, drama, sports and languages, is your DC meeting targets in all these areas too?

mrz · 31/07/2017 19:33

"He loves story time now he gets to read his own book. He doesn't actually break things he takes them apart, he likes to see how things work, and he enjoys group activities when it's something that interests him ie football," if this is true he's definitely not on target for the Prime areas

SkyWalker95 · 31/07/2017 19:41

My concern is if he doesn't have any set goals they won't try with him in those areas. The books he reads on his own are things like the Biff Chip and Kipper but also books like the hungry Caterpillar, the gruffalo, fox in socks, etc. As for secondary school that's so far away but he got his duckling grade 4 swimming the other week and he can communicate in sign if that counts. But secondary is not even something worth considering at his age

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MumTryingHerBest · 31/07/2017 19:47

mrz if this is true he's definitely not on target for the Prime areas

Doesn't surprise me. DC1 considered "average" at pre-school, considered highly able in all subjects at secondary. DC2 considered very bright at pre-school, turns out dyslexic and dyspraxic at primary school (very high underlying ability so still exceeding in reading and literacy).

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