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Help Please? Anyone's D got into Haberdashers or NLCS at 4+?

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funkychic · 11/12/2006 15:42

My D is will be going for the 4+ 'play group' asesssment at Habs and NLCS. I'm desparate to know what they ask them to do. Really need advise from all mums whose child are already in these schools. Pleeeeeeaaaassse help!!!

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Judy1234 · 18/12/2007 20:27

Belladonna just speaks what many parents think. Every time you avoid the inner city secondary where children carry knives and there is low level disruption in every class like that that teacher filmed and was disciplined for doing so, of course you all try to avoid schooling like that and anyone who doesn't admit it is probably lying.

If you were given the choice for your children of a class where they can concentrate and work well surely any of us would choose that. It's common sense.

For me I wanted them educated with other girls in the top 10% or so of IQ too so that they are in that atmosphere where everyone finds the learning fun and works at the same level so you can spark ideas off each other rather than waiting for half the class to catch up. Of course having seen children through the teenage years you know that in all schools there then are disaffected children but at least if 99.9% of the sixth form are going to good universities they will probably follow that particularly herd there even at the stage when they tend to do what their peers say and not their parents once you all get beyond the lovely stage of 4 - 5 year olds.

iwearflairs · 18/12/2007 20:32

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spokette · 18/12/2007 20:37

Xenia, many private schools turf out the trouble makers who end up going to the state schools because the altruistic, charitable (that's a laugh!) private sector cannot be bothered to deal with them.

hercules1 · 18/12/2007 20:38

Yes, because children with dyslexia are all knife weilding nutters..

spokette · 18/12/2007 20:40

iwearflairs - Belladonna would have to spend more time with her off-spring if they did not have all those activities.

hercules1 · 18/12/2007 20:42

I dont get the argument from other recent posters and what it has to do with belladonna's points about sen.

CharlieAndLolasMummy · 18/12/2007 20:44

feck me I can HEAR the braying on this thread...

coppertop · 18/12/2007 20:44

Oh the irony of reading Belladonna's comments only a couple of hours after ds1's teacher apologised again for the disruption caused by some of the NT children in his class when ds1 (ASD) tries to get on with his work.

VVVExcitedAboutChristmasQV · 18/12/2007 20:57

Well yes, its only children with ADHD that cause disruption in a classroom

What is it with half-wits on here today?

LIZS · 18/12/2007 21:21

Agree TensLordsaLapin , and that is just the parents ! Belladonna , I'm not sure if you are plain naive or seriously prejudiced. Ability to pay has absolutely nothing to do with it. Privately educated kids can have their share of problems too, be they SN, social or attitude. They do not automatically manifest themselves early enough to be "managed out" in the way you seem to anticipate.

twocutedarlings · 18/12/2007 21:32

My Daughter has Aspergers, and she is quite often disruptive in class - the cause of this is when the NT kids a messing about not doing as they are told to do.

Oh and by the way my DD has an IQ that puts her in the top 1%.

Saturn74 · 18/12/2007 22:34

I had a long, beautifully constructed, well thought-out post all typed out.

Then I thought "actually, I can't be arsed, leave 'em to it!"

camillathechicken · 18/12/2007 22:41

ooooh, i love the intelligent use of speech marks around ADHD and Dyslexia, so we all know that they are just excuses made up my lower middle class,poorer parents for their DCs failings

get a farking grip, belladonna

i hope the mandarin comes in very useful , so your DD can tell you to grow up in at least two languages

ooh, i am in a baaad mood!

Bink · 18/12/2007 22:49
Saturn74 · 18/12/2007 23:11

Camilla, with you as his mother, surely your DS is 'impeckably' behaved?
(D'ya see what I did there? )

AwayInAMunker · 18/12/2007 23:39

BellaDonna, it's a pity your education didn't include spelling. Maybe you have dyslexia? Or rabies?

TinyTimLivesinVictorianSqualor · 18/12/2007 23:46

Great post!

needmorecoffee · 19/12/2007 08:49

Facinating thread. Being benefits scroungers (dh had to give up work to become a carer) does mean that my very bright kids could never benefit from a posh school like Habs but they've learnt so mcuh more being home educated in my opinion. And I'm guessing posh schools wouldn't take dd at all - intelligent but with severe CP and drooling. Might upset the nobs.

TenLordsaLapin · 19/12/2007 09:14

Actually NMC, Habs gives out quite a few bursaries and scholarships - I certainly wouldn't have gone if we'd had to pay for it! Some pupils have their entire fees paid.

Irritatingly the page with the Disability Plan and Individual Needs policy is down at the mo (really the website is shocking!) but these big private schools DO take children with a variety of disabilities.

I'm sure your DD is doing brilliantly at home, I'm not suggesting you should up and send her to Habs but please don't stereotype these schools without really knowing what they are like. "Might upset the nobs" is quite insulting really! Just because you attend private school doesn't mean you are an utter wanker you know (well, maybe some of the parents )

BellaDonna79 · 19/12/2007 09:17

Look, as Xenia says I'm simply vocalising what many parents are too apprehensive to say. Everyone wants the best for their children and I'm no exception! I think it is good for my kids to mix with children with SN but I don't want them in the same classroom with children who shouldn't be in mainstream. I prefer them to be educated with children who are equally as bright and well behaved. And I refuse to apologise for that.

Hulababy · 19/12/2007 09:22

Please don't think that some of the posters on this thread are the only types of parents that use private schools. Most of us are way more level headed and "normal" in our thinking!

TenLordsaLapin · 19/12/2007 09:23

Oh well done you for sticking to your guns. You are still living in cloud cuckoo land, by the way.

Hulababy · 19/12/2007 09:26

Look sorry but BellaDonna79

  • bright child does not always equal well behaved

  • SN child does not always euqal badly behaved child

  • SN child (are you seriously including dyslexia here )does not always equal not bright

  • well behved child does not always equal bright

Yes, everyone wants the best for their child. And yes, schools should be dealing with distruptive children in the class room and school. But your comments are offensive and insulting, and blatently untrue in many cases too.

spokette · 19/12/2007 09:32

Well said Hulababy!

Belladonna - can I suggest you ask Father Christmas for some altruism, humility and compassion. You appear to be seriously deficient in those qualities.

LIZS · 19/12/2007 09:42

At least I can rest in comfort that you won't be a fellow parent at ours, by self selection !