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How many teachers have been attacked / threatened by students?

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feelingunsupported · 05/11/2014 12:53

I've been thinking about this a lot over the last few days in light of the sentencing for the murder of Mrs Maguire. I've namechanged for obvious reasons but am a regular - Reasties xmas threads mainly

In my small school this year so far

  • teacher's arm jammed in a door. Student made to write a note of apology
-male staff member had to deflect a punch from student. Staff member interviewed by manager for use of force. No comeback on student -student threatened to nut a teacher. Approached teacher looking like he was going to do it. Student suspended for 2 days then back into class -teachers told to fuck off / called cunts etc regularly
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Pipbin · 05/11/2014 18:46

In teaching, the assumption is you are at fault.
And everyone has a opinion on it because they went to school once.

AnyoneForTardis · 05/11/2014 18:50

not able to read all posts but all this is Shock.

cant the NUT strike or something and not go back in until proper laws are implemented to protect you all? all threaten to leave or something? you should NOT have to work fearful of your lives every day.

and the perps getting away with it.

As for the students, if the parents are anything to go by Im not surprised their offspring behave the way they do.

didn't I read once they were thinking of bringing in marshalls or something sad face of education when security needs to be bought in.

but then again you cant even LOOK at a pupil without them being precious that your 'disrespecting' them and they can threaten you.

SugarPlumTree · 05/11/2014 18:50

I am shocked - knew it was bad but not that bad Sad

Ofsted don't help as far as I can see DD'S school is 'Inadequate'. Mostly because they are about the only local school not an Academy the cynic in me feels but that is another issue.

One of the gripes was the number of internal exclusions. They praised the classroom behaviour and how little disruption in lessons. This is because if someone kicks off the staff call a number and someone comes to remove that student from class. So the school is dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. My friend raosed this with them, they had no answer to what the school is supposed to do - just it works well for yoyr child but not for those removed from class.

As they have spaces and and are about the only school not an Academy they end up having to take pupils who need moving from other schools - not just our LEA but the two adjacent ones too. I've heard the Head is retiring and becoming an Academy now on the agenda. Poor sod really turned it round and worked hard with the community police to provide facilities and engage the children on a local estate which had a lot of problems and has now improved significantly now.

I'd like to see someone like Panorama look at this but guess it will never happen.

Cherrypi · 05/11/2014 18:52

We had metal detectors installed for a day at our FE college. We weren't told what was found.

Pipbin · 05/11/2014 18:53

cant the NUT strike or something?

Have you missed the complaints when we strike?
And we can only strike over pay I think.

rollonthesummer · 05/11/2014 18:58

I wish teachers could fill in an anonymous questionnaire when Ofsted come in to share concerns about ineffective management as the big O were totally bowled over by all the bullshit our head fed them and totally failed to see the bigger picture.

Fuckerysmuckeryboilsnspornery · 05/11/2014 18:59

My first year being cover supervisor I had a year 9 boy say something really obscene to me (it was directed at me too). I had to write this out, give this state,ent to head of year, who smirked. The boy denied it-end of story. Except the boy smirked and licked his lips every time he saw me.
My sil had 1 to 1 with boy, who hissed at her, kicked, punched, nipped, pushed and finally bit hard enough to break skin through a very thick jumper.He is still there, on his third ta. He was 6 at the time.

MinuteMaid · 05/11/2014 19:02

we can only strike over pay I think

Yup. the only way anything will ever change is when all the teachers walk. But then there are always fresh-faced NQTs to step into their shoes.

Teachers are society's cannon fodder.

rollonthesummer · 05/11/2014 19:04

Fresh-faced cheap NQTs.

I think the heart of the problem lies with ineffective management. Why are they now like this?

Hulababy · 05/11/2014 19:07

There is an anonymous questionnaire for teaching staff to complete before OFSTED...it should be anonymous anyway iirr. It does ask about SMT.

AnyoneForTardis · 05/11/2014 19:08

pip I said I hadn't read all posts so maybe someone said it before.

as for only being able to strike over pay, that's ridiculous, youre all concerned about your safety, how about a mutiny?

of COURSE you can all go on a demontartion or something, theres always an option.

as for compliants from paerents, well, don't get me started about discipline beginning at home.

AnyoneForTardis · 05/11/2014 19:09

demonstration! duh! typos! fat fingers!

Iggi999 · 05/11/2014 19:17

I've only read the last three pages but am amazed that the police haven't been mentioned - I would have no compunction at all about calling the police if I was assaulted, whether management wanted me to or not. I think it would be a long-term benefit to the student too.

rollonthesummer · 05/11/2014 19:30

Our anonymous Ofsted questionnaires had to be handed in to our head....

Hulababy · 05/11/2014 19:32

Iggi - its strange when it happens though. Before I always thought the same, but when it happened it was played down so much by MT that you begin to feel it can't have been that bad, and maybe it was partly your own fault. DH was very much for me taking it further but you get worn down with the messages from school. In the end I just figured it was easier to go on maternity leave a couple of weeks early...I knew if I went to the police I would be in for the long haul and without my employer to back me up.

Cherrypi · 05/11/2014 19:34

I don't know any teachers who've gone to the police. Has anyone on here ever done it and if so what happened?

Hulababy · 05/11/2014 19:34

rollon - that's def not on. Ours were put in an envelope and then placed inside another envelope in the office- the office staff were official "in charge" of it but afaik it was all anonymous so the HT wouldn't know who did which one.

spanieleyes · 05/11/2014 19:39

At a local school the pupils were yelling racist abuse at the OFSTED inspectors, heaven knows what they were doing to the teachers!

DontGotoRoehampton · 05/11/2014 19:45

the pupils were yelling racist abuse at the OFSTED inspectors
Sad

ConstantAcceleration · 05/11/2014 19:54

I've been threatened and sworn at but not been attacked.

What are our rights regarding refusing to teach a child?

ImperialBlether · 05/11/2014 19:55

I am under no illusions that our questionnaires were confidential.

SnowBells · 05/11/2014 20:04

Where the heck do all these kids go to school? Who are their no-good parents? Seriously, those parents should be neutered. Now. Otherwise, the future will be a world more f*cked up than the one we already live in now...

Pipbin · 05/11/2014 20:07

Most schools have at least one child like this Snowbells.

SpecialCircumstances · 05/11/2014 20:12

I've been injured by a number of students and probably get a few new bruises a week. I work in a special school which takes children and young people with complex needs often with challenging behaviour. The difference is that we are trained to deflect and restrain students if needed, backed up by management, have medical care in site and always always have a debrief after an incident. Oh and we follow a very personalised curriculum with each child having at least 1:1 support so you're not worrying about the impact on a whole class. I live what I do but without all that I couldn't last a day!

Iggi999 · 05/11/2014 20:12

Hulababy - I can imagine that it is made very difficult to do. I'd hope the unions would be supportive of that course of action though. Obviously not for every incident, but if you'd be arrested if you did it on the street I think you should be arrested in school.

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