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Church schools - how can they get away with it?

567 replies

CountessDracula · 23/08/2006 21:33

Am I right in thinking that they are state funded?

How come they can pick and choose when others can't? Isn't it essentially exclusion on the basis of religion, isn't that BAD in the current climate?

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jamiesam · 23/08/2006 22:12

but CountessDracula, at least it is (I assume) a good school. I could easily have got ds1 into our catchment school, it's a state school, undersubscribed and really really not very good at all. So I have been forced to choose the next nearest schools - just like you. But unlike you, they included a couple of c of e schools that I was willing to entertain.

You managed to come out of a catholic education a reasonably balanced human being didn't you? Couldn't your children too?

CountessDracula · 23/08/2006 22:13

no rubbish it is a big gripe

what if i lived in an area where the only option was shite school or church school?

I am not concerned soley for myself and the convenience of my journey to work ffs. It is wider than that, a general principle.

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CountessDracula · 23/08/2006 22:13

I didn't go to a catholic school

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soapbox · 23/08/2006 22:14

CofE school round the corner from me is Draconian in enforcing the worship element!

Poor parents daren't go away for the weekend lest they lose the prospect of a place by having a sullied attendance record!

It is an outrage. If churches/ parents want religious schools then they should pay for them themselves, not out of taxpayers money!

hoxtonchick · 23/08/2006 22:14

cs, you're scary when you're on one . and i totally agree with your principle.

CountessDracula · 23/08/2006 22:14

YESS SOAPY

I love you xx

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Cappuccino · 23/08/2006 22:14

but you don't

Thomcat · 23/08/2006 22:14

But she's not reasonable or balanced - that's the problem

CountessDracula · 23/08/2006 22:15

I am

I want my own scary vampire emoticon

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CountessDracula · 23/08/2006 22:16

don't what cappucino?

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CountessDracula · 23/08/2006 22:16

(I am was to HOX not TC btw)

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hoxtonchick · 23/08/2006 22:16

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hoxtonchick · 23/08/2006 22:17

that looks shite

iota · 23/08/2006 22:17

Church of England schools may be Voluntary Controlled or Voluntary Aided. Voluntary Controlled Schools are county schools with a religious bias whereas Voluntary Aided Schools are a type of foundation school.

Church of England schools are firmly fixed in their community. They tend to be older schools set up in villages and parishes by the church to educate the children of the parish at the time when there was very little schooling offered. They serve their villages as community schools.

The differences between the two types of Church of England schools are in the governance and funding of the schools.

The governance of Voluntary Controlled schools is like that of all local authority schools with regard to funding, admissions, staffing and curriculum.

The governance of Voluntary Aided Schools involves

· additional foundation governors on the governing body

· the employment of staff and their conditions of service

· setting their own admissions policy

· the school becomes a trust

· governors are liable for 10% of capital costs, DfES taking up the remaining 90%

· separate inspections of RE

· educational support by the CE diocesan board

Thomcat · 23/08/2006 22:17
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Thomcat · 23/08/2006 22:19

What was it supposed to be HC.

Looks like a bat for CD to beat herself with.

Just say 3 Hail Mary's CD, you'll be forgiven

hoxtonchick · 23/08/2006 22:20

it was meant to be vampire teeth obv tc. looked better when i typed it.... honest .

jamiesam · 23/08/2006 22:22

sorry, read that you'd been brought up a catholic, put 2 and 2 together and got 5.

As to your point about choice between church school and shite one though - well, after our shite catchment school, the next nearest state school is also shite. What a choice - if it wasn't for the god squad, I don't know what I'd have done (rented a house in the catchment of a decent state primary maybe )

CountessDracula · 23/08/2006 22:23

Let's get something clear here

I was baptised or christened or whatever the f**k it's called, a catholic. I have never been to church voluntarily apart from for weddings or funerals!

I have never felt any allegiance to anything religious. I was married in a reg office and dd is not christened.

I pay a fortune in taxes and I don't see why religious types should get my local school

so does this mean I can start up a state funded school for people who think they are vampires to send their kids to? It is as valid IMO

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Thomcat · 23/08/2006 22:23

Am pmsl at the vampire teeth.
Lovin it

Cappuccino · 23/08/2006 22:25

you don't live in an area where the choice is shite school or church school

and if you did you would make your choice

if you felt so strongly that the church school was not the right choice, you should be on the governors of the shite school trying to sort out why it was going wrong

I really don't understand this fear and hatred of church schools

faith schools don't generally indoctrinate. they are about putting forward the faith in a positive way, building a moral support for a child's development. none of the major religions have anything but a positive moral statement to make, be it c of e, catholic or muslim

they teach faith positively because they believe in it; it's not about learning doctrine

the secular agenda dictates how we live our lives much more in this generation than the church does. The way that the church used to influence our live is fading. Going to a faith school in this century is like swimming upstream for two minutes

CountessDracula · 23/08/2006 22:25

it should be

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v v

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Northerner · 23/08/2006 22:25

If it wasn't a religious school it probably wouldn't be as good (stastically church schools perform better than non church schools) and then you might not want her to go anyway.

There is not a church school in the lan that would say 'you can't come here becuase you do follow our religion' it all depends on the particular year's in take.

Apply CD and she might get in. You never know.

Northerner · 23/08/2006 22:26

don't follow our religion.

It's late - typing terrible.

CountessDracula · 23/08/2006 22:26

No no!!!

REad the thread

I don't want her to go to a catholic school

There are two local schools that are better

I just resent the fact that our very local school is banned to dd because I am not religious or a hypocrite

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