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Church schools - how can they get away with it?

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CountessDracula · 23/08/2006 21:33

Am I right in thinking that they are state funded?

How come they can pick and choose when others can't? Isn't it essentially exclusion on the basis of religion, isn't that BAD in the current climate?

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Celia2 · 27/08/2006 19:56

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drosophila · 27/08/2006 21:12

Celia forgive me if this has been asked before but what do you think would happen to their faith if you had to send them to a non religious school?

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Tortington · 27/08/2006 23:14

if i want to send my kids to a catholic school i should be able to.

now listen - heathens should not be allowed. you should go to church forever

the church should pay for it all.

same with any other school.

as it happends it doesnt work that way. and i have to get written references from a priest to get my children in a school when i moved.

and i guarentee 50% hadn't gone to church since baptism. - which was probably only for the piss up.

is it right - no.

is it fair - no

have i benefitted - hell yeah!
have you missed out ? ner ner ne ner ner. haa haa haaa haa haa haa

MadamePlatypus · 27/08/2006 23:50

thanks Celia 2 - that is a sensible answer .

olivia35 · 28/08/2006 01:11

Have just attempted to explain this thread to dh who has been reading over my shoulder.

He flatly refused to believe that we could possibly not be able to send dc to the local primary...'But we can SEE it from our house!'

Yes, as it happens, we should be fine. It's a nice local primary, mostly Muslim (we're atheist/me & Buddhist/dh). But if that school happened to be a faith school, our children couldn't go there unless we chose to subscribe to the relevant faith. Or pretend to.

He still doesn't believe me. & he's no thicko, just someone who has not had occasion to consider it before (I'm a teacher, the kids' schools is seen as my business).

I know it's been said more eloquently on this thread - but it is UTTERLY wrong that state-funded schools should be allowed to select by superstition. Absolutely silly.

DominiConnor · 28/08/2006 11:07

What about a kid (like I was) who decides deeply that he really, really isn't a Christian.
How do you deal with that ?

pointydog · 28/08/2006 11:30

custy!

drosophila · 28/08/2006 11:39

Go on Batters. I won't be offended.

fatfox · 28/08/2006 20:58

Custy LOL!

This should really be re-named The Sour Grapes Thread

Bibliophile · 28/08/2006 21:05

Why do the fans of religious schools need more and more indoctrination for their kids? Are they scared that superstition won't stick unless it is rammed down their kids' throats by everyone they come in contact with? Atheists have to put up with ridiculous Christian religious worship even in non-Church schools.

Bibliophile · 28/08/2006 21:06

Yeah, the only reason you might oppose state funded segregated schools is 'sour grapes'. Of course.

Bibliophile · 28/08/2006 21:08

And anyone wondering why someone might not want their daughter to go a Church school could take a look at the 'wives submit to their husbands' thread. Morals?

UnquietDad · 28/08/2006 21:25

Would be interested to know if those proclaiming that people oppose church schools out of "sour grapes" really think that, or if they are just doing so to be provocative.

If it's the former, I'm disappointed. I thought people had a little more respect for one another's opinions here than that, and it shows that they haven't read the many and varied points being made on here - particularly the points from those of us who absolutely HAVE NOT been turned down by a church school or even applied for one.

And if it's the latter - "leeeeeave it aaaahhhht".

pointydog · 28/08/2006 21:45

I think fatfox and I are laughing at custy's post for entirely different reasons.

Impressive, custy.

DominiConnor · 28/08/2006 22:18

The Census results were a put up job.
Of course most people tick the Christian box.

This makes good numbers for people to claim there is a demand for state subsidised superstion.

Attending church is a rare activity, which is rather at odds with the notion that there is some huge demand for religion.

According to the CoE's own numbers about 1 million attend their churches on a Sunday.

Apparently around 6% of women are lesbians, which rather implies 3.6 million. That number is not exactly firm, but does rather imply that they outnumber CoE worshipppers big time.
So are lesbians entitled to schools for their kids ?
What about Trekkies ?

UnquietDad · 28/08/2006 22:26

As some people are fond of telling us, about the same number of people regularly go to church every Sunday as regularly attend football matches every Saturday. I don't have a problem with that - I'm not especially interested in either activity, and if people want to spend their time and money doing them, that's their business.

But I'd be furious if my local state primary school suddenly started demanding active allegiance to Sheffield Wednesday, filling the place with blue-and-white regalia and making each assembly focus around worship of the Owls (change details according to your local football team), and only allocated places to people who, regardless of the actual depth of their passion, had attended home matches as a family for 18 months.

ediemay · 28/08/2006 22:37

sorry, have not read all of the thread but have just ROFL at Trekkie schools.

UnquietDad · 28/08/2006 22:42

"What's first lesson this morning, Dr McCoy?"
"It's Science, Jim, but not as we know it."

"Captain? Ensign Georgina in Year 1 is requesting the toilets to be opened."
"Make it so."

NotAnOtter · 28/08/2006 22:44

mumsnet can be so clever!

ediemay · 28/08/2006 23:11

Offshoots could include Star Wars Specialist Colleges and Klingon Language Centres.
Have become phobic of all schools lately and come out in hives at thought of uniform - search for school for DS is sending me to the gin bottle