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back from sports day for reception age - very upset

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Spatz · 06/07/2006 15:59

Just been to our first sports day for about 25 years! Shocked by the treatment of small children - I thought the world had moved on. DDs reception class had to do egg and spoon, obstacle and sprint races then some throwing and jumping. The events were all won by the same few biggest children (all boys).

As far as it went that's okay because they had fun in the events, but the prizegiving at the end went on for about 15 mins while each of six races had three certificates and a medal for the winner - some lads had 5 or 6 prizes by the end and most children ended up with nothing. They became sadder and sadder as they realised they wouldn't get a certificate and many ended up in tears. At the end the head of the junior school said they should all go to their class teacher to make sure they got a little 'I'm a good sport' thing to pin on.

How are other sports days run? Is this normal?

OP posts:
poppyflower · 07/07/2006 19:17

No, sports days like that have been pretty unfashionable for a while

SenoraPostrophe · 07/07/2006 19:18

well, there were lots of arrogant gits at my school who won everything at sports!

blackandwhitecat · 07/07/2006 19:20

TBH I'm surprised you support something which excludes your own son or anyone elses child. All activities at school should either be accessible to all or optional. Schools now have a duty to be inclusive and not discriminate against children with SEN or disabilities. If I have to teach a text to a blind student I have to have it brailed. If we can't meet the needs or our students and make all parts of their school accessible they have a very legitimate grievance. It's exactly the same as saying a student in a wheelchair can't do chemistry because the labs are on the 2nd floor and there's no lift.

poppyflower · 07/07/2006 19:21

Caligula, I don't know where you live, but i see these sorts of competitions for thses subjects all the time.
I tell my son that on a monday morning at junior school, the whole class had to chant out the times table they had had to learn that weekend. My God we learnt them.
Children werre singled out to stand on chairs to do so. No doubt you think that barbaric. We learnt our tables, my children don't know theirs

Blu · 07/07/2006 19:22

"Life is made up of goals, self set and those set by others. As adults we have to learn to deal with disappointment and work out accordingly how to modify our behaviour to acheive our goals. "

Yes- but achieving goals is NOT the same as competition. You can achievbe goals alongside others, in co-operation with others, etc etc. Setting high standards for yourself is not the same as being competitive.

I was a teenage athlete. I actually held a national record for my age group for a track event for about 3 years. I trained hard, won a lot. Now I am the mother of a 5 year-old with a mobility disability who will be very put out when he encounters his first Year 1 sports day next year.

I DO think that competeitve sport is important for sportsfolk. If running is your thing, running against others is your lifesblood. For everyone else, it is pointless. (actually, I found it pointless too, and one Saturday afternoon with my thumbs on the track waitiong for the gun, I looked along the line, saw exactly the same row of bent heads I had seen every Saturday afternoon for the past 8 weeks, knew we would all finish in a group separated by .01's of a second, and thought 'how bloody pointless' and that was the end of my athletics career!).

I would have competitive sports for those that can do it and make a 'thing' of it, and enjoyable sporty team games for the rest.

DS IS competitive, and he will be devstated that he just can't keep up in running. He has to cope with that all the time - and there's certainly no bloody glory in beating him! For the winners, there is only any glory in beating those of a similiar ability - so keep it that way.

I could run - but am not at all competitive. But i srt bloody high goals for myself.

Life may well be about goals, but there's not much hope for us if it is about dog-eat-dog and glorying in beating the ones at the back in sports day who never stood a chance anyway!

JanH · 07/07/2006 19:23

I have a really touching memory of one large, heavy and sloooow Y6 boy finishing 2 laps of the school field about 10 minutes after the first one home - he was practically crawling by the end but he did finish it.

He got a sincere round of applause for not giving up but IMHO he should have got something more tangible too to recognise his achievement (which was actually greater than for those who coasted home) - do you really think he shouldn't, poppyflower?

Caligula · 07/07/2006 19:24

poppy do you really? With medals, and a fifteen minute award ceremony for 4 and 5 year olds?

And no I don't think it's barbaric to stand a kid on a stool, but I do think it's unnecessary and counter-productive. I know my tables too, and there was never any suggestion that we'd be singled out like that - we just chanted and it went in without the threat of humiliation.

handlemecarefully · 07/07/2006 19:25

Caligula,

I was actually quite moved by your post - the bit about children of that age having positive energy and enthusiasm and allowing them to keep that self image intact for a bit longer before it is shattered (as it inevitably will be on certain levels)

poppyflower · 07/07/2006 19:26

Not everyone can join in with everything, that's utterly ridiculous.
I don't agree that inclusion is such a great thing either and I have friends with children with special needs that think it is not only a government cope out but has damaged their children's education

poppyflower · 07/07/2006 19:28

Janh I think he should! \doing your best is what counts, ultimately.

Blu · 07/07/2006 19:30

But they ARE all forced to join in with sports day.
That's what this thread is about.
Spatz's reception age children being forced to take part in things they stood no chance of ever winning, or had any ability at all in sports.

Caligula · 07/07/2006 19:30

Thank you HMC

Blu · 07/07/2006 19:32

yes, we should all be doing our best, and being encouraged to not settle for doing second best.

That is not the same as 'competition', or 'doing better than someone else' just for the sake of it.

Lemmingswife · 07/07/2006 19:35

I work in a primary school & our sports days are not at all competitive.
We have a round robin of different races for the children, but there is no winning & losing involved. All children get a certificate at the end of the event for taking part.

Blu · 07/07/2006 19:37

Sounds lovely, LW.

It's not as if KS! kids even train for events. At secondaty level, and if you're competing at county AAA matches or something, you will be training at least 4 times a week, and working hard. that deserves some reward and recognition, when it comes to competition, but aged 7, in traditional sports day events, it's down to what you were born with - same as looks, height etc.

galaxy · 07/07/2006 19:38

That;s so sad. dd's sports day was fab albeit she is at a kindergarten and not yet in pre-school. Everyone got medals and they all cheered when dd stopped whilst running down the track to wave at the video camera

poppyflower · 07/07/2006 19:40

we're just not going to agree. i think sports day is healthy and a good thing.
Most 4 year olds can't run in a straight enough line to finish a race, let alone worry about whether they are winning or nor for heaven's sake. They are quite happy with a medal for taking part. i think you are imposing you way of perceiving things onto a child. Quite different

JanH · 07/07/2006 19:41

But they don't all get a medal for taking part - that was the OP's point, wasn't it? They got nothing!

poppyflower · 07/07/2006 19:42

but they should,I'm with people on that at least

Blu · 07/07/2006 19:42

But Poppy - Spatz reported that the kids were getting sadder and sadder....

Blu · 07/07/2006 19:44

And I'm not 'anti' sports dat just because Ds will never win at the traditional sports day events - I just don't see the point in promoting fierce competition and the profile of 'winners' and 'losers' at a sports day in which young children are forced to take part!

Blu · 07/07/2006 19:44

And i don't buy into coffee table psychology about 'life is competitive' euther.

Lemmingswife · 07/07/2006 19:48

I agree Blu. I am suprised that there are schools out there that still go for all this competition stuff.
The school I worked in before did not have any competition involved in KS1 sports days either - it was just fun for the children & I started working there 13 years ago.

poppyflower · 07/07/2006 19:48

Not suprised. There are ways of having sports days that allow all to feel ok. Many people here have given examples of excellent pracice, my children's school awards a point system depending on where they are placed in a race and those points go to the house total.

harpsichordcarrier · 07/07/2006 19:49

well said Blu - I have been composing a similar but inferior post during bath time.
it is important not to confuse achievement with competition. I am absolutely for setting high standards, doing your very very best and so on. whether you then "win" or not is very much sa secondary issue.
to emphasise the winning rather than the achievement is a naive and overly simplistic attitude, imo, and one which doesn't really get you very far in life. Very little of any actual importance in life is about "winning" in crude terms. Certainly no academic achievement, or artistic achievement, except to a very limited extent.

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