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Promotion of homosexuality in schools

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tectime · 04/03/2012 10:24

Hi

I have children in junior school, and one is due to undertake a sex education class (too young in my opinion), but I am concerned if the subject of homosexualty is broached. Is this broached in senior schools, or does it happen in junior schools too.

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AnaisB · 04/03/2012 11:25

Why wouldn't you want your kids to learn about relationships as well as reproduction?

OracleInaCoracle · 04/03/2012 11:25

Op, I agree. Its disgusting. I ensure that DB wears a boiler suit, mask and gloves when we see him in case he infects us all! I mean, you teach kids about same sex relationships and that's it, there'll be frottage behind the bike sheds, drag queens in PE, cunnilingus in home ec... When we all know that sex is dirty and certain things are best left in the closet.

Sincerely,
Outraged of shrewsbury.

OracleInaCoracle · 04/03/2012 11:25

Op, I agree. Its disgusting. I ensure that DB wears a boiler suit, mask and gloves when we see him in case he infects us all! I mean, you teach kids about same sex relationships and that's it, there'll be frottage behind the bike sheds, drag queens in PE, cunnilingus in home ec... When we all know that sex is dirty and certain things are best left in the closet.

Sincerely,
Outraged of shrewsbury.

ifancyashandy · 04/03/2012 11:26

Can someone 'teach' me homosexuality please? I've always thought 'they' had the much better parties. Grin

seeker · 04/03/2012 11:28

And welcome to the 1980s!

EmpressOfTheSevenOceans · 04/03/2012 11:29

If your DD was in my DD's class, OP, she'd know that some DCs have 2 mums. What would you tell her if she asked you about us?

JugglingWithTangentialOranges · 04/03/2012 11:33

I'm much more concerned that it is never mentioned at primary school except in the playground where children go round saying "Erh ! You're gay !" to each other in a fairly random and ignorant way. (Voice of experience, having worked in schools recently)

I think there was a fairly controversial law that banned "the promotion" of homosexuality in schools. (Whatever that meant) I think it was later repealed but perhaps the effects of it linger on. Sad

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tectime · 04/03/2012 11:34

Alright! I made a faux pas about mentioning it being taught. I regret the wrong choice of words used.

For section fo the population cultural and religious reasons make homosexuality a diffcult subject to address. My point is why should it be discussed (as part of sex ed) at school.

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PosiePumblechook · 04/03/2012 11:34

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solidgoldbrass · 04/03/2012 11:35

Oh hello OP. Were you born an inadequate bigot? Or have you just failed to educate yourself about human behaviour? Hopefully your DC will rapidly hit that stage of adolescence when they realise that one or both parents is a fuckwit and make sensible choices of their own.

MrsDmitriTippensKrushnic · 04/03/2012 11:35

I'm not going to touch your rampant homophobia at all - I think you are well aware you're in a minority over that on here (but you should seriously try and learn some empathy, tolerance and humanity at some point)

Primary school Sex Ed is generally about relationships, the importance of being nice to each other, it highlights the fact that bodies are changing but it doesn't go into any real details of any flavour of sexual relationship - DSs (Yr7 and Yr 9) said they've touched on the mechanics in Science in Yr 7 but that's it.

PosiePumblechook · 04/03/2012 11:35

People who embrace homosexuality along with their belief in fairies need to live elsewhere, there are plenty of homophobic and backward countries across the world.

solidgoldbrass · 04/03/2012 11:38

It should be discussed at school so that children growing up with superstitious morons for parents don't have to suffer too badly for their families' homophobia.

And usually the parents who want to withdraw their DC from sex education are the ones who are abusive in one way or another (either want to give their DC a horribly distorted, negative view of sexuality, or don't want the DC finding out that actually most daddies and uncles don't get into bed with you and call it a special secret).

TheFallenMadonna · 04/03/2012 11:38

Seriously? Why should it be discussed as part of sex education? Because it is part of sex. Because there will be children in the school who are gay. Because some will have gay parents, or relatives, or friends. Because it is a part of lifr, whether you approve or not.

Reproduction is taught in Science. Sex ed is not reproduction. Nor should it be.

RachelWalsh · 04/03/2012 11:39

My son's 4 and he knows that some men love men and some women love women. In fact we're going to my parents later to have lunch with them and some friends of theirs who are a couple I used to babysit for who are shock horror - both women! I'm straight by the way, despite always being aware that some people aren't.

What is it you are worried will happen if your child is aware of homosexuality?

Sirzy · 04/03/2012 11:39

Why shouldn't it be discussed? Why shouldn't homosexuality be seen as equally as 'normal' as being heterosexual is?

People don't choose to be gay, straight, bi whatever that is who they are and the education system should of course reflect and respect this. Do we really want the child with gay parents to feel there family is "wrong"? Or the 14 year old just coming to terms with his sexuality to be told that heterosexual relationships are the only acceptable ones?

HoneyandHaycorns · 04/03/2012 11:40

Oh dear. This thread isn't going to end well.

OP, it's precisely because some parents are uncomfortable talking about sexuality that this should be covered by schools.

If one of your kids turns out to be gay, I am sure they will be grateful that there was at least one place where it was discussed openly and they were allowed to feel normal.

PosiePumblechook · 04/03/2012 11:40

We've always talked about all relationships as I couldn't allow my children to feel, if they were gay, that it wasn't anything other than normal.

So OP which brand of homophobic God do you follow?

Sirzy · 04/03/2012 11:40

Op - what would you do if in 10 years time one of your dc told you they were gay?

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tectime · 04/03/2012 11:41

PosiePumblechook, there is no call for that type of language

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MrsDmitriTippensKrushnic · 04/03/2012 11:41

I should say actually that I think that's wrong - I think it's children of DSs age who should be actively taught tolerance, and given the bullshit some parents come out with, I think that should be far more than having posters in the library. PSHE should take the opportunity to demystify and break down all the negative stereotypes far more vigorously than it appears to do - homophobia, sexism, racism should be tackled head on imho.

BelleEnd · 04/03/2012 11:41

I think my brother (who knew he was gay from early childhood but didn't come out until 18) would have appreciated being taught of the normality of homosexuality, and it may have eased a bit on the cruel taunting that he suffered for being camp.

AgentProvocateur · 04/03/2012 11:41

As the mother of a DS who is gay, your post has made me sad and angry. I can't believe people can be so intolerant and ignorant of homosexuality in 2011.

IAmBooyhoo · 04/03/2012 11:42

"My point is why should it be discussed (as part of sex ed) at school."

because gay people have sex too, and some of the children in the class are/will be gay. they deserve to have the same attention paid to their future relationships as straight children.

MrsWembley · 04/03/2012 11:43

I came on here hoping that this was a thread about helping gay teens find acceptance in the school environment.

May I ask, OP - how old are you? I get this sort of attitude from my MiL and I have to ignore it (and the damage it has done to her sons' attitude towards people who are different, but DP is getting betterSmile) and put it down to her age. I thought the majority of my generation and younger were much more... educated and, well, just plain decent about being tolerant of differences.

It beggars belief that in this day and age someone can come on here, of all places, and say they are worried that schools 'teach homosexuality'.Angry