Teachers striking on 5th October!

[IwishIwasmoreorganised]

We've had a letter home today saying that some teachers in ds's school will be on strike on 5th October. Luckily neither of our ds's classes are affected.

I thought that public sector workers were being balloted over striking on 30th November about the proposal to change their pensions again, but I kew nothing about the 5th October.

Anybody else affected by this?

Thank you mrz

I see an potential new era of detente. Still "undiscovered country" territory as far as Chibi and Feenie are concerned, though.

Feenie, I have had ongoing battles with teachers who I, and others, have felt "do not cut the mustard". I have merely lamented over a section teachers, not all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was referring to your abusive posts which were subsequently deleted, and your comments re sweary teachers.

At least you had the grace to apologise, I suppose.

Feenie

Funny, I now feel the urge to curse

In my experience of campaigning against cuts and in support of teachers, people are quite sympathetic on the pension issue. Not everyone believes that if private sector has crap pensions then everyone should.

We have to make cuts but in the right areas. Believe it or not, I do not believe in cuts in education. This is our investment for the country's future. I also believe in investing in the armed forces (defence of the realm) and the police (excluding traffic police- sorry my bug bear).

I would make cuts in the NHS; I have worked there and local government, and most especially welfare.NHS and Local Government ahve too much governance and admin that should not realy be needed. As for welfare, let's not go there - we know the genuine cases and the "feckless" (I am almost there with the cursing, Feenie!)

There is an alternative to cuts - see www.pcs.org.uk for a different view. The fact that Gordon Brown resigned meant Labour were embroiled in a leadership election for months and gave no opposition to the Condems story

hooray im not in a union

Are you a teacher, SueNarmy? If so, you are very, very vulnerable.

yy Feenie

SueNarmy I urge to join one, if you are against industrial action join Voice, you simply must be in a union (did you not watch Educating Essex?)

Or ATL, who have a 'conscience clause' you can invoke if you don't want to strie.

striKe!

i wond thave a union threatening me that a kid might make a malicious complaint into joining.
is cheaper to have own legal insurance

the Unions KNOW that is the only reason peopel join these days.

im not in a union and i dont care.
i think the strike is stupid and i think we should pay more into pensions.

O.....k

No one says we shouldn't.

However, I am not the sort of idiot who blindly believes what the government say, particularly when they refuse to provide the proof in an actuarial valuation which has been due since 2010.

You have to ask yourself why they refuse to do this, and refuse to negotiate. Something isn't right.

You've been given advice about joining a union, and given options whereby you have the protection of a union but don't have to take industrial action if you don't want to. To answer that with 'I don't care' kind of ends that conversation, really.

Let's hope a situation doesn't arrive where you wish you had taken the advice offered. It's very likely though, in education.

I'm with you, Sue.

I was frightened into joining the NUT.

Will give Voice a look.

Why do so many people believe whatever what they are told by this government...any government?

'frightened into joining the NUT' Was that the real NUT or continuity NUT?

Do unions provide pension schemes for their members?

I'm assuming you were 'frightened' into joining a union by the very real prospect that you might need their legal support at some point in your career? Or even just their knowledge of your rights? It is something that you should be prepared for.

I'm in the NASUWT, I've never had a pupil make an accusation against me or anything like that, but I am very aware that since I've gone part time, my union rep keeps a close eye on how the school deals with part-timers. For example, I had a problem with my timetable at the start of the year. I asked the timetabler if anything could be done to sort it and she said 'No'. My union rep then asked, with reference to pay and conditions, and it got sorted.

I joined the NAS at the start of my career because they were less militant than the NUT and I didn't fancy having to strike. It is worth noting that even the less militant unions are prepared for strike action in this instance. Even the ATL who have never gone on strike. That suggests something is seriously wrong with the government proposals.

How did you get frightened into it?

I changed from the NUT after they were crap at changing my membership from supply to full time teacher, it is very easy to switch unions.

Sue I really hope you don't need to use that legal cover (incidently how muc are you covered for?)

It is worth noting that even the less militant unions are prepared for strike action in this instance. Even the ATL who have never gone on strike. That suggests something is seriously wrong with the government proposals.

Indeed - and add to that list the NAHT, who haven't been on strike in over 100 odd years.