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Jamie's Dream School

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MarathonMama · 16/03/2011 20:46

Has there been a thread about this already because I really need to rant...

Is anyone else watching this and getting annoyed? The sense of entitlement these kids (and Jamie!) have drives me mad, they seem to think their education should be handed to them on a plate, with no personal effort or accountability. I can't see how instilling a belief that the education system has failed them and it's got nothing to do with their attitude or behaviour is going to help them in later life?

I really wish someone would give them some home truths instead of pandering to their whims.

Rant over Wink

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qumquat · 17/03/2011 17:23

This programme drives me mad!

Tom Bennett says it so much better than me:

behaviourguru.blogspot.com/2011/03/jamies-dream-school-2-baited-bear-and.html

behaviourguru.blogspot.com/2011/03/jamies-dream-school-in-special-measures.html
The one who annoys me the most is the completely ineffective Headteacher, he at least should know better.

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MarathonMama · 17/03/2011 17:39

I agree on the Starkey point, he was bloody awful but the kids are far worse and appear to being given the message that it's not their fault. I think it's really sad that the next generation seems to have this great sense of entitlement, "what am I owed?" etc

The number of kids on the programme who have their own flat also shocks me. Why should they work for anything if it's literally handed to them on a plate?

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MarathonMama · 17/03/2011 17:42

Oh and thanks for the links qumquat - spot on

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whoatethelastbiscuit · 17/03/2011 19:52

Really pleased I am not alone re this programme, I just can't watch it anymore, where do these children (despite their age that is how they come across) get that sense of entitlement from? is the film just cut to make it look like that so there is a big turnround at the end? is it just a front?

forehead · 24/03/2011 19:01

What pisses me off about this whole programme is the need to keep these 'kids' entertained or ' engaged'. These kids need to learn that sometimes learning can be 'boring'. I found learning my tables by rote at seven years old tedious, but even at that tender age , i knew i had to learn them in order to progress.
I 'm really getting annoyed with JO, he really doesn't get it.
I hate to sound like a 'Daily Fail' supporter,but some of those kids need discipline they were vile. In fact their behaviour reminded me of a poem by DH Lawrence 'Last Lesson Of the Afternoon', In which the narrator described the children in his class as ' my pack of unruly hounds'

Acanthus · 24/03/2011 19:09

What pisses me off is that all these interesting, intelligent non-teachers are being wasted on these tossers. These kids need proper basic teaching from teachers who are skilled in the kind of crowd- control needed to deal with them. Send the politicians, historians, celebrities etc to nice schools where the kids will listen and value their expertise. Waste of time and effort all round.

sieglinde · 24/03/2011 19:43

I so agree, Acanthus. but - oh dear, how elitist of us! At the moment the whole education system insists that endless money be spent at the bottom, but once you are over the C line, nobody wants to spend a farthing more on you.

Starkey has a weight obsession and is good for fifty minutes on his own obesity as a child and teen and his low carb diet.

tishacf · 26/03/2011 18:51

So very pleased I found this thread. I too am so appalled at the behaviour of the youngsters that are portrayed in this programme.

These 'children' don't deserve a second chance - they are insolent and show zero respect for anyone. I think they should be taught about rules, regulations, discipline and consequences of their actions before anyone even attempts to try and teach them anything.

Lots of people have tough beginnings in life - they don't all behave like these 'animals'.

What makes Jamie think that they are bright? How can someone be bright and not even listen in a lesson. They should have put the same effort into children who really do want to learn.

The headmaster is like a wet weekend - for goodness sake - get some backbone and show the kids who is in charge.

What hope is there for the future of society if children like these are allowed to think that their dreadful behaviour is acceptable?

alemci · 26/03/2011 19:10

yes I noticed the flat thing too, why bother when you can get a free flat. They are getting on my nerves too particularly Harlem when she lost her bag. so rude.

JO is pretty lame too and too appeasing IMO and the headmaster.

the only one who is nice is the girl in the bio sphere

pointydog · 26/03/2011 19:25

The headmaster comes across as rubbish. He's shooting himself in the foot.

willow · 26/03/2011 21:21

DOn't want to come across all Harlem about this, but am I the only one thinking that what these kids need is a slap?

Acanthus · 28/03/2011 10:50

I think they absolutely do deserve a second chance, but this isn't the way to go about it. The only people who can get through to them will have teaching skills and the ability to keep discipline, ie get them to shut up and listen.

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MarathonMama · 28/03/2011 12:44

Acanthus - most of them are or nearly are adults. Surely it's up to them to WANT to learn. They shouldn't need discipline if they're being given another chance, they should be self-disciplined and responsible. They should also appreciate the opportunity they've been given.

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ohanotherone · 28/03/2011 12:53

Agree, agree, agree, agree, agree x 100000000000000000000000000000000.

If Jamie wanted to help these nearly adults he should give them social skills training and they should then enrol at a local college to retake their GCSE's.

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MarathonMama · 30/03/2011 15:51

In fact, I think this programme would be better if they had adults who failed at school and wanted to go back into education. That way the programme could move from its current focus on bad behaviour and poor discipline to a more in-depth look at what these great experts are trying to teach.

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creativecravings · 08/04/2011 23:46

I'm currently in my second year of sixth form. My predicted grades are A*AB and I have been rejected by three universities of my choice. I have done nothing my whole school career but work to the best of my ability. It drives me totally and utterly insane to see this lounge lizards do nothing , blaming it on family problems, everybody has problems you have to deal with them, anyway they do nothing then get handed this amazing oportunity to be taught by these fantastic experts (they really are, despite some of their teaching efforts) for half of them to shove it back in their faces and still continue to be disruptive and disrespectful? The message this show is really promoting is ' do badly, act badly and we'll come and save you' it's not the educational system that is failing, if anything they are far too kind to these obnoxious teenagers. I truly think child protection laws and human rights have gone too far in the classroom, I'd say what we need to do is revert back to old school teaching methods, learn from America ( I'm not saying bring back the cane) but more discipline in nescessary! It's a bit like global warming, how are we meant to cut down on using fuel and electricity when for years we have been able to consume as much as we have liked, without anyone batting an eyelid. It will take a while but with every district, every school and every teacher slowly becoming more strict then the pupils attitudes will change. At my sixth form our head teacher constantly tells us how we are under-achieving even if we're gettings A's across the board, it doesn't demotivate us at all, if anything it spurs us on to prove her wrong.

Madsometimes · 11/04/2011 12:13

The behaviour guru has a very well informed blog on Jamie's dream school.

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MarathonMama · 12/04/2011 19:54

Madsometimes love it, made me laugh out loud!

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willow · 12/04/2011 20:41

Ditto - that is one fantastic blog.

cornsilkily · 13/04/2011 08:32

loving that blog Grin

redqueen999 · 13/04/2011 22:52

I'm a single parent and also a cleaner, I have 2 boys who have both gone to
university one reading physics and the other investment banking and I am sick to death of people saying that single parents produce children like those in this programme. The Parents of these children should be well and truly ashamed of their offspring's behaviour and attitudes. I know my children would have been
overjoyed to have been taught by experts such as these, instead these poor experts are faced with the badly behaved, foul-mouthed brats.
Instead of pandering to these children they should give them a taste of what it is like to clean public toilets for a week which is part of my job, believe me they would be back in school getting straight As in no time!

willow · 14/04/2011 11:28

And they ALL got scholarships? Now that's either the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard or the TV coverage was heavily edited to show the kids only at their worst. Hmm Any notion that these kids were just using this as an opportunity to become 'famous' was given credence by the amount that are, apparently, now auditioning for TV dramas/being helped by Simon Cowell's agent to get a job etc etc, rather than heading for further education.

MissJanuary · 14/04/2011 14:29

Hopefully it was a wakeup call for David Cameron, have them visiting Downing Street and not being able to string a properly worded or enunciated sentence between them.

This is his youth of today in modern Britain, I hope he was horrified.

Agree totally as many of you have already commented on their complete sense of entitlement.

Jubato · 14/04/2011 17:16

Yeah, all this wasted time and resources to "inspire them to get back into education". The majority of them have just been inspired to try to be celebrities.