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Too many part-timers working in schools

133 replies

Titogovi · 16/07/2010 21:31

That;

a) Only work 8.55-3.15pm, not a minute earlier, not a minute later.

b) Have hissy fits if you ask them do anything 'from home' (their place of worship)

c) Actually, just re-read a) and that really says it all.

Who suffers - the children.

Question: who created their jobs in the first place then? And who decided that "working flexibly" (aka, doing the bare minumum and caring more about taking little Johnny to his sax lesson on the other side of town rather than giving your all to the school your work in..) would work..?

I feel ashamed to be a part-time working mum athe moment.

TAs let the side down, big style.

OP posts:
Iggisfulloftayto · 16/07/2010 22:21

Mme, if there are no limits to the hours you work, I think that's called being a slave, not an employee.

Original poster
Titogovi · 16/07/2010 22:22

To what extent are most posts unintelligible and disjointed? Do elaborate.

Sorry, but TA posts do strike me as being the refuge of mums afer school hours paid employment, nothing else.

And it does make me laugh when I come across all those high powered professional types who lost their ambition come motherhood, only to belatedly rediscover it when their kids were school aged and they found a job of graduate-ish status that was permanent and term time only. ('but I've always been passionate about education, my job in marketing before children was interesting but never fulfilling etc etc.')

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undercovamutha · 16/07/2010 22:23

I don't work in schools, but I do work in education. I think the 'work to rule' attitude has more to do with mothers per se rather than p/t or f/t workers. I know this is a VAST generalisation - sorry!

Where I work, those with kids in school or childcare tend to have to arrive and leave on time. Those without kids have greater flexibility. This is surely understandable.

I work p/t in a senior job. Contrary to most peoples view, I only get paid for my part-time hours. It is amazing the amount of people who make you feel like you are getting time off work for free just cos you work p/t.

StarExpat · 16/07/2010 22:23

Whoami - this was a no for me as well (indep school) but I'm glad I'm full time - I love my job. And my baby. And I feel so fortunate to be able to give all that I can to both.

Who is this op? Just re read posts and it doesn't all even make sense. Can you just say what exactly went wrong for you, op?

toccatanfudge · 16/07/2010 22:25

Whoamireally - my DS's have had a multiude of part time teachers through infant school - including in reception for a while It was absolutely fine.

evilgiraffe · 16/07/2010 22:26

Since when is a TA the same thing as a teacher? They don't get paid the same, and the job descriptions are vastly different. Every single teacher and TA I have ever met has worked above and beyond the call of duty, whether they were technically part-time or not. It's not the sort of job that people go into with the sort of attitude that you are implying they have - it's far too much of a thankless task for that. The OP is merely demonstrating WHY it's such a thankless task - so many people don't see how much work goes into teaching, and don't appreciate either that or what they do see.

TheMysticMasseuse · 16/07/2010 22:26

Those who can, teach. Those who can't, admin.

You sound slightly deranged op. Or was your p/t application just turned down?

ninah · 16/07/2010 22:26

what's wrong with being lucky enough to get interesting job that fits around your childcare?
you do sound v sour grapes op

toccatanfudge · 16/07/2010 22:27

"Sorry, but TA posts do strike me as being the refuge of mums afer school hours paid employment, nothing else. "

really - must tell that to one of my close friends who has been a TA at the infant school for over 10yrs.......I'm sure she'll be quite amused especially given that her YOUNGEST DD has recently turned 22.

Although (pretend horror) - she gets Thursday afternoons off to run the toddler group at church

usualsuspect · 16/07/2010 22:27

Why on earth should tas do more hours than they are paid for?

NoahAndTheWhale · 16/07/2010 22:28

How do you know exactly what hours all teachers work? My dad used to leave school at 3:30 and then work well into the night most nights. But maybe you would think he didn't put enough time in.

My BIL works 3 days a week as a music teacher in a secondary school. He is an excellent teacher. And also excellent dad to their DD

StarExpat · 16/07/2010 22:28

Oh well I chose to tach well before even the mere thought of having a baby crossed my mind... But I don't know why I am justifying my career choice and the hours I'm at work and doing at home to YOU.

Your attitude stinks. I'm not usually one to say something like that on MN or in RL but you are ridiculous. Unless something has happened that has spurred this thread - what is it?

NonnoMum · 16/07/2010 22:29

OP sounds like a disgruntled EX-teacher who had to leave as she couldn't hack it...

And now the poorly-paid TAs aren't killing themselves and burning themselves out (perhaps like she did?) and so she has to have a little rant...

Bless.

loopyloops · 16/07/2010 22:30

This isn't my usual style of posting OP, but you are being fucking ridiculous, rude and narrow-minded.

corblimeymadam · 16/07/2010 22:31

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StarExpat · 16/07/2010 22:32

Teach not tach. Posting from my phone. Now op will tell me I'm not qualified because of typos

TeamEdward · 16/07/2010 22:33

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StarExpat · 16/07/2010 22:35

op brought that out in me, too!

paisleyleaf · 16/07/2010 22:35

I keep looking back here to see if the OP's explained what the problem actually is.
But no.

TeamEdward · 16/07/2010 22:36

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ThistleWhistle · 16/07/2010 22:36

What NonnaMum said.

Why the big chip on the shoulder Titogovi?

loopyloops · 16/07/2010 22:40
kid · 16/07/2010 22:41

I'm a TA and have DC that do not attend my school. I therefore have to stick to my hours to ensure my DC get to and from school on time. I go to work straight from dropping them at breakfast club and I go to pick them up straight from work.

When needed, I am flexible with my hours to help with trips or events. I don't have to work extra hours as I work very hard while I am there and get my jobs done.

I do often work from home, not because I feel I have to or because I am told to, its because I want to. If I didn't want to take work home, then I simply wouldn't.

Thankfully I don't work with anyone like the OP. If I did, I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to do any extra hours or work at home. I would be watching the clock constantly to make sure I didn't go a second over my time! I mean, its all about give and take and if you have some slating you for daring to have a family and work the hours that you can, then why would you want to give any extra?

carriedababi · 16/07/2010 22:43

op, perhaps you should get yourself a job at tescos then?

StarExpat · 16/07/2010 22:46

Lol loopy! We'll be the biggest meanest Mners now... And we can say that it's all Titogovi's fault. Haha!! But yes, it DID feel good!

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