Too many part-timers working in schools

[Titogovi]

That;

a) Only work 8.55-3.15pm, not a minute earlier, not a minute later.

b) Have hissy fits if you ask them do anything 'from home' (their place of worship)

c) Actually, just re-read a) and that really says it all.

Who suffers - the children.

Question: who created their jobs in the first place then? And who decided that "working flexibly" (aka, doing the bare minumum and caring more about taking little Johnny to his sax lesson on the other side of town rather than giving your all to the school your work in..) would work..?

I feel ashamed to be a part-time working mum athe moment.

TAs let the side down, big style.

If they're paid 8.55am-3.15pm then that's the hours they work. Having people do last minute overtime and work from home requires much more money.

I suspect if you were paid the TA hourly rate you wouldn't be too keen on working from home or working for free either

TAS are paid a crap hourly wage... why should they do extras for nothing.

Teachers on teh other hand are paid a reasonable (ish) salary and should be exepcted to work after shcool hours amd in the holidays (and most I suspect do in spades with lesson planning, parents evenings, marking etc)

Absolutely TotalChaos, which is why I would never dream of taking the job in the first place and would rather stack shelves in Tescos for, actually, slightly more money and greater flexibility.

....but that's not what yummy mummys do is it? No, they just do their 9-3 bit, revert back to domestic goddess c.3.07pm and think how lucky they are to be working 'in education'.

A right mess.

I know some who are putting more in than they should be. They're not on a salary - just paid the contracted hours. And the more they do, the more they seem to get put upon.

omg yes and what about dinner ladies? once lunch is over they are off like a flash
bleddy disgrace

Why would you think it wrong for people to work the set hours for which they are paid ?

That's not my experience of TAs at all.

How dare TAs go and look after their own children after they finish work!

Really, what is your gripe? How are the children 'suffering'? And why are you 'ashamed to be a part-time working mum athe moment'?
Are you a teacher?

Because that is not how schools are designed to work.

Vocation meets Professionalism = no space for clock watching.

Most of the TAs I know do far and above their expected hours and I know I could not do my job without them. As others have said TAs are paid a pittance as well, so IMO they are entitled to clock off. I agree with annoyingorange why do you want people woring hours they are not paid to do.

As for teachers with a part time attitude, it is 9:47, I started at 7 this morning and have only taken a break to buy some food and feed my family. It is Friday FFS so i think you are getting your moneys worth out of me. My family however are having to do without. Sometimes we are entitled to put our own children first.

Sorry, you're going to have to spell it out to me clearer than that...

How ridiculous

I used to be a teacher, and I would be betraying my sense of professionalism and vocation if I went back on par-time hours.

Teaching is NOT, repeat NOT, a part-time job.

I work in admin now, but am seriously irked by the world owes me a living mentality of of the army of middle-class mums that have colonised the staffroom at my children's primary school the past 3 years or so.

Is this a TA rant? What about p/t teachers then?

Tell me about it Titogovi.

Anyway I have a very dense and muddles essay to get back to marking.

but TA's aren't teachers

actually DS2 has 2 part time teachers as well though - they're both fabulous

But 'assisting' can be a part-time job though can't it?

Given the pittance TAs (many of whom are wildly overqualified for the job they do) earn in order to have a job that fits round school hours, you seem to be being grossly unfair, OP.

Teaching is a job, not a vocation. I shudder at the thought of someone with a vocation teaching my child. That is the wrong attitude, IMO.

I've just applied for a ta job at ds school
it's afternoons only and I'd be happy to start earlier than needed but I'd need to finish when my kids finish
but there's a ta I know who leaves at fourish with her dd so presumably her dd hangs out in the classroom with her until hometime
paying aftersch club would make working not viable

OP -what is your job?

Teaching ccan be a partime job

my sil works mon tues and weds

Yes she foes lesson plans at home too but she's still only paid 18 hours a week

Teaching may not be a part time job, and overtime and working from home is expected. But you're talking about teaching assistants who are paid for the hours they work.

What exactly is it you want them to do for free for your children, instead of leaving work to look after their own children?