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Why do women put up with so much shit.

60 replies

Gypsy2014 · 22/01/2025 23:56

Daily I see posts on mumsnet and think what the actual fuck, get a backbone is this just me.

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MuchTooTired · 24/01/2025 08:27

FatLarrysBanned · 24/01/2025 07:41

@MuchTooTired Notwithstanding some of the things you've mentioned (low self confidence, seeing kids less, broken home stigma), if you had the money to rent a place and live a decent life with your kids would you leave?

If someone said "here's £10,000" to get you on your feet would you go or would you carry on living this life?

If I had the means to get a place of my own and pay for ongoing legal services, I’d be gone like a shot.

As an aside, I don’t hold any stigma about the kids being from a ‘broken’ home, I was from one myself. It’s giving up on my dream to get everything ‘right’ for my kids, and despite my very best efforts I’ve failed them against my own internal idealisation. This really is a very small part of my thinking, the rest of it will fall into place because it usually does.

I know I’ll get there.

Eaglemom · 24/01/2025 08:34

AwaitingFreedom · 23/01/2025 00:34

Then you really don't understand the insidious nature of abusive relationships, on how it slowly chips away at a person. It is well known that it can take multiple attempts for an abused woman to leave her abuser, even if they have hospitalised her on several occasions, precisely because it drip drip drips until she believes she is worthless, she must deserve it, she made him. Can you imagine what that would do to a small child watching his/her mummy and daddy? Thankfully many professional bodies do understand it.

Agree with this. Very ignorant OP post, until you have been through it you don't know.
OP - Have you never heard that abusive men often go for successful assertive women and work to destroy them as its more of a challenge.
As an example Mel B hardly comes across as a timid person does she and look what happened there to a self suffiviant, confident, mega successful woman.
Women of all types of personality, social standing and jobs are at risk. The only common denominator is being a woman. There's plenty of evidence and research out there OP if you care to find the answers to your own question.
But what you have assumed is so far off the mark.

Eaglemom · 24/01/2025 08:35

Msmoonpie · 23/01/2025 14:39

I know exactly what you mean. I see posts and think …could you be any more of a doormat ?

Are you really so desperate you would put up with pretty much anything just to be in a relationship?

It’s not just about men either - I see on posts about at work or family relationships etc.

Perhaps having a backbone should be taught at school.

Then you know absolutely nothing at all about domestic abuse.

Almostwelsh · 24/01/2025 08:49

Because the alternative is not seeing your children for up to 50% of the time, years of arguments over Xmas and birthdays, having your children subjected to whatever girlfriends or step children your ex chooses to bring into their lives and all this on less money and being subject to the insecurities of the private rental market.

Larrythebloodycat · 24/01/2025 12:09

SuperMaybe · 24/01/2025 04:06

Sometimes I think that women's hormones don't help. The desire for some women to have a baby is so powerful for some women that they seem incapable of making sensible decisions. There are loads of Mumsnet threads that show this.

It's a pity nobody has invented a pill or injection that could switch off that desire. Like Mounjaro for breeding rather than eating.

iamnotalemon · 24/01/2025 12:33

@Spectre8

I'm sorry your mum says that to you! I'm the same as you, mid 40s, single and no kids. I'm very happy with my life but it's taken a while to accept that I'm not 'a failure' because of how society deems how my life should be at this age.

Spectre8 · 24/01/2025 12:35

iamnotalemon · 24/01/2025 12:33

@Spectre8

I'm sorry your mum says that to you! I'm the same as you, mid 40s, single and no kids. I'm very happy with my life but it's taken a while to accept that I'm not 'a failure' because of how society deems how my life should be at this age.

It's a culture clash i don't hold it against her she is slowly coming to accept my decision.

iamnotalemon · 24/01/2025 12:36

@Larrythebloodycat

That's funny! Maybe that'll be the next thing on the market.

I'm probably in the minority but never had the biological urge to have children and for which I'm grateful as I'm single at 44 and suspect had I desperately wanted a child, I would have 'settled' for any man.

iamnotalemon · 24/01/2025 12:38

@Spectre8

I understand that. It's probably an alien concept to her if marriage and children is all she's ever known. But still, it's sad that a life isn't seen as worthy because of this.

ScarlettSunset · 24/01/2025 12:41

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I was raised like this.
And it's exactly why I put up with a lot of shit for far longer than I should have.

The people around me were doing the same. It took me quite some time to realise that wasn't how life had to be.

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