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Getting christmas present to 9 year old from dad

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BlueWanderer · 02/12/2024 21:37

Mother has stopped parent & all relatives seeing child and wont answer communications. Dont know why.No reason - she has severe MH issues. Wont answer own family either. Dad has full PR. No acknowledgement of birthday/ Xmas presents worried child not getting them, possibly binned. Would it be unreasonable to ask teacher to hand over small present & note from Dad ? Dont want child to think we've not sent anything. She's in a class of 6 & plenty of 1/1
Father wont go to court but used to see her EOW. Family & dad close to child who is 9.Other ideas welcome too. Just want to know that child get her presents.
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BoobsOnTheMoon · 02/12/2024 21:50

So the father wants to make sure she gets presents, but doesn't want to make sure she gets to have a relationship with him? Huh. Each to their own I suppose, but why on earth won't he go to court?

BoobsOnTheMoon · 02/12/2024 21:50

Oh and no, you can't ask a teacher to give a gift for him. Completely inappropriate and would put the teacher/school in a very difficult position. It's not their place to play piggy in the middle with warring parents.

BlueWanderer · 02/12/2024 21:57

I know what you mean it was a last resort & can see it isn't appropriate.Other than court, which dad won't do, any ideas how family can make sure child gets her presents? Don't want her to not have presents. All family ghosted by mum - no reason, last communications friendly

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BeerForMyHorses · 02/12/2024 21:58

Why won't dad go to court?

BlueWanderer · 02/12/2024 22:00

He wants to see D but mum says no. Says will kill herself if he takes her to court. Has tried this before. Dad saw D EOW until recently & Child saw lots of other family. Now cut off from all.

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cestlavielife · 02/12/2024 22:02

It makes no sense.
What difference does a present make when dad is not prepared to fight to see his child? Seems pointless
You say " don't know why" then mention severe mh issues.
Depending just how severe is "severe" ?

anyway dad needs to be doing a lot more to step up
Focusing on a present is missing the point

drspouse · 02/12/2024 22:02

Does sound like dad doesn't want to go to court because it will make him look bad.

cestlavielife · 02/12/2024 22:03

If mum is going to kill herself all the more reason to go to court to establish what is what

GraceOMalleyReturns · 02/12/2024 22:04

The father thinks it’s ok to leave his daughter with a woman who has severe mental health issues and is threatening suicide and not interfere?

MissBattleaxe · 02/12/2024 22:07

If the mother is isolating the child and threatening suicide if challenged, then getting a present to the child should be the last thing on his mind. There are serious risk factors here and the Dad's not even trying. He needs to step up and get involved. Parental alienation can be a form of abuse.

cestlavielife · 02/12/2024 22:07

Yeh but so long as the child gets a new toy right?
Op you need to advise the dad to go to court and that way get assessments of both parents done

BlueWanderer · 02/12/2024 22:10

He's been in contact with nspcc and Children's Services and they don't seem concerned. Other family have alerted them too but nothing happened

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BlueWanderer · 02/12/2024 22:57

His D is known to Childrens Services and had social worker until recently. Mum looks after her physical needs well but rels worry about her emotional health with being isolated.
Has anyone been to family court as litigant in person and was it hard. Think Dad would struggle .
He was given a referral to Children's Services in September but hasn't heard anything more.

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SD1978 · 02/12/2024 23:04

No you cannot involve the school. Dad goes to court and that's it. If dad won't actually fight for his daughter and has only
excuses, there is nothing the rest of the family can do.

Bathroombedroomlounge · 02/12/2024 23:08

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/dadsnet/5222630-child-arrangement-order

Asking for advice about going to court on this thread, a little contradictory.

TheFormidableMrsC · 02/12/2024 23:31

BlueWanderer · 02/12/2024 22:57

His D is known to Childrens Services and had social worker until recently. Mum looks after her physical needs well but rels worry about her emotional health with being isolated.
Has anyone been to family court as litigant in person and was it hard. Think Dad would struggle .
He was given a referral to Children's Services in September but hasn't heard anything more.

I've been a litigant in person and it's fine. The court is generally very helpful. There are a lot of resources out there. CAB can help. Not going to court is not an option. This child needs intervention and soon.

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