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Divorce/separation

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Reasons you separated where there was no abuse or adultery involved?

26 replies

Bringyouflowerz · 15/04/2021 23:14

Just wondering why people separate if there are no serious causes?

I recently read a post on MN about the "ick" and I think this is what I have. I recently moved out of the marital home to stay with my parents as I'm just not feeling it. We are sharing the children roughly 50/50 at the moment and I think everyone just assumes I'm going through some sort of phase. I don't think I am though.

DH is a nice man overall, but he is a bit moody, conversations are very factual and tedious, he rarely smiles, he doesn't look after himself well, he often smells sweaty. I don't enjoy sitting next to him on the sofa at all as he's started repeatedly clicking his joints loudly in recent years in the evenings, he snores loudly, eats everything in sight and I recently noticed that he walks funny. He wears the same clothes for days/over a week without washing them, I'm sure he sometimes forgets to brush his teeth. He only classes something as a good idea if one of his friend's have done it first, if not, it's all caution and procrastination.

Aside from all of this he's quite gentle, a nice Dad, but that's about it.

My own parents are stumped by my decision to move out for a while, so heaven knows what they'll all say when I file for divorce. I just quite like the atmosphere when he's not here, I feel less tense, more relaxed and a lot lighter.

Any advice?

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HomicidalPsychoJungleCat · 15/04/2021 23:19

My ex was (and still is) utterly lazy around the house, sleeps in clothes he wears the next day, never made an effort for snything family related ( no organising days out, no involvement with xmas/birthdays/holidays never took me out or organised ys to have time together and basically was very selfish and insular.
My friends all think im mad because hes good looking, earns well and everyone loves him. They don't have to live with him. 😂

Bringyouflowerz · 15/04/2021 23:30

Selfish and insular is how I would describe my DH @homicidalpsychojunglecat

Also everyone loves him. I think it's the reason I struggle to find the confidence to officially separate. I'll be the bad guy.

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Catforaheadrest · 15/04/2021 23:32

Not only do you defo have The Ick, he actually is quite icky Envy

GentlemanJay · 16/04/2021 07:37

I had this problem. Sadly cloth can't put on the form "I just don't love her anymore, intact I don't even like her"

So I had to dig down and concoct some reasons, which were true but not the main reasons. This caused a lot of resentment.

HariboBrenshnio · 16/04/2021 07:42

We met young, early 20s, and had a surprise pregnancy which we jumped into head first 2 years in. We just grew apart. No drama, no huge arguments.. we just decided we both deserved more than a live in co parent. I picked the best ex husband I could have - we have a really special co parenting relationship and friendship. I got the ick definitely and did find his 'quirks' difficult to live with. We are both so much happier and the kids have taken the transition well. We basically spent 10 years building a lovely family that we parent separately.

I told friends & family this, I didn't come up with a reason. Some encourage us to 'try' but they could see we were handling it well and left us be mostly.

Bringyouflowerz · 16/04/2021 07:52

@hariboBrenshnio thank you for sharing such a positive separation story. It's good for me to hear.

Have you since met anyone else?

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Lessthanaballpark · 16/04/2021 07:57

He was possessive and way too intense.

He was paranoid that I was always trying to get one over on him when really it was his insecurities about not earning as much as me.

He was a tight arse.

He also presented a jolly affable side to the world.

God that felt good!

HariboBrenshnio · 16/04/2021 08:00

[quote Bringyouflowerz]@hariboBrenshnio thank you for sharing such a positive separation story. It's good for me to hear.

Have you since met anyone else?[/quote]
This happened in March of 2020 just as lockdown came into play. He move out August 2020 (just down the road!) and we've been in a pandemic since. I wanted to give myself a full year before dating - to focus on myself and my kids to make sure we're all really happy. I hope to meet someone else, and I'd be pleased for him if he did though he's happy alone at the minute too.

I don't want any more children and men my age are starting to settle down (early 30's) so it's going to be a bit a mine field when I do get back out there!

I'll also need someone happy with our co parenting arrangement. Its so good to have a good positive split, but it would be tricky for some to come in to. It's perfect for us, and the kids - he comes here to see them and I'll pop into his, we spend 'big days' together, he's coming away with my family this august (separate rooms) and chat daily about the kids (they are 5&7) but there is no romantic feeling at all between us. There hasn't been a suggestion of sex or getting back together since we decided to split. We definitely moved into the friend zone a few years before we made the decision and we couldn't have stayed friends if we didn't jump when we did.

moomin11 · 16/04/2021 08:06

We split over having (or not having) children and it was amicable. In hindsight there were other things I wasn't happy with but we could have worked on those. Not being happy in the relationship is a good enough reason to split OP and why does it matter if other people don't understand?

mvilma6 · 16/04/2021 10:34

my case was he is sooooo lazy, wont arrange anything (holiday, day out, birthday...anything), wont meet people he is always too tired (100% anti social), he will get suck from job after job constantly, and top it up ignored me and baby for months when he was borned.

bye bye. i have recovered my happiness after years of miserable marriage

Shodan · 16/04/2021 10:58

He was (is) a workaholic- would come home and immediately switch on his laptop. Any conversations with me were conducted from behind the laptop.

He never organised anything for us/the family. He was very good at organising games of golf for himself, but anything that we could do together was apparently too hard.

He farted. All evening, every evening. And they smelled revolting.

He used to say I'd said something different to what I knew I'd said, or claim that we'd never spoken about something, to the point where I started to doubt my own memory.

There were a few times when he looked at me with such a disgusted scowl on his face that I got close to tears. One such time was on the way home from a weekend away (that I'd organised). During this weekend away he'd spent the flight chatting to a woman (we checked in too late to sit together) and then continued this chatting in the shuttle, totally ignoring me.

He would never do anything on his own with ds2 (ds1 is mine from a previous marriage. He wouldn't do anything on his own with him either, but I excused that to a large degree).

Those are just a few of the reasons. Despite this we have a very amicable separation, and share care of ds2 with a lot of flexibility.

Bringyouflowerz · 16/04/2021 22:11

Mine actually does this too @shodan he plays golf, football, goes cycling. Never any trouble arranging these activities but does nothing for family/couple life. Interesting how a few people have sited this reason on the thread, I'd cast it aside as a minor reason up until now, but it actually is quite a big one.

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SummerSazz · 16/04/2021 22:20

DH and I separated for similar reasons to @HariboBrenshnio. No horrors but didn't see the same life panning out together into retirement etc. He also never arranged stuff for the family and had lots of other interests.

We are separated and co parenting well and pretty positively. Waiting for 2 years until divorce so we don't have to 'make up reasons'. Which is so archaic it makes me cross - I think legislation re this was held up when coronavirus hit which is a shame. We will be 2 years in Dec and will finalise then.

I've no interest in dating yet but he is (some might say in typical man fashion....)

We could have stayed together 'for the kids' but realistically that would be 10 years through to end of Uni and I couldn't contemplate that.

@Bringyouflowerz - I hope you can come to a 'good' resolution even though it's not what any of us signed up for when we got married. It's very sad but I have fabulous kids and only one life to live.

ThatLibraryMiss · 16/04/2021 22:22

I fell out of love with him. We worked together so we were friendly professionals at work then we got transferred abroad for six months, where we lived with another man from the same company so we were friendly at home too and it got to be so we were really good friends and not a couple. The sex was terrible too. If we'd been much older it might have been ok but I was only 30 and didn't want to spend the rest of my life in passionless comfort.

He's a lovely lovely man and I'm very fond of him but it wasn't enough for a marriage.

Takeoutyourhen · 17/04/2021 07:28

It seems much harder to explain reasons to people (who enquire nosily) because it’s not as cut and dry as DV or affair. And is it their business to know the nitty gritty because some people try to rescue the situation without having the experience.
Anyway, could be “fallen out of love” to family which translates as controlling, tight, inconsiderate, didn’t take care of themselves, felt like I was treading on eggshells, gaming addiction...
I think some people can feel a bit defensive when they hear details especially if something rings true to them and they remain married.

Damnloginpopup · 18/04/2021 02:53

Didn't enjoy each other any more.

Livandme · 18/04/2021 07:37

There were lots of reasons but the official line I told friends was that we didn't enjoy time together and had nothing to talk about.
Additionally, h was emotionally distant, lacked care and compassion, we never had sex, he wasn't supportive, I was very lonely and a couple of throw away comments he made to our son, "I'm keeping your mother". (had recently left a job due to a mh issue I had after a family trauma which he showed no support for)
I've found people will believe what they want to anyway so keep it brief!

Isitreallyme77 · 25/04/2021 20:26

We met when he was 18 and I was 24 and just about to start university. I think we outgrew each other in the end. He turned into a lazy slob by the end and wasn't the man I fell in love with either. I wasn't perfect either. We get on really well now though and I'm glad we managed to stay friends, he is cat sitting for me and I've been over to his when he has had the electrician in.

I love him dearly, and he will always be in my life but we weren't good and it was too much to fix. My Dad can't understand it, my mum gets it a bit better. Our friends would love us to get back together, they see how well we get on and can't understand why we don't.

StormBaby · 25/04/2021 20:47

We had spent years together partying and clubbing and really, that was all we had. He was ten years older than me and once the social life tailed off and stopped, so did the intimacy, communication etc. He was also incredibly lazy, I was always bottom of his list of priorities, below his mates and football. We limped along for about five years, had another baby, but it wasn’t to be.
We’ve remained friends and co parent really well.

I now have an amazing DH who is totally completely different.

Isitreallyme77 · 25/04/2021 20:58

@StormBaby we did all the partying and clubbing too and when that stopped our relationship deteriorated. It seems that was what was holding us together.

StormBaby · 26/04/2021 15:07

@Isitreallyme77 glad it’s not just me. 😳 I know it sounds really shallow but it was our life, I was DJing sometimes and we were going to clubs and free mini festivals put on by hippy mates. Some of the happiest days of my life. We had a really intense relationship for about five years and then it just, died.
Been with my second DH 6 years now and it’s even more intense, but with longevity. And no clubbing!

Isitreallyme77 · 26/04/2021 16:08

@StormBaby not shallow at all. We were friends with the djs and promoters, always free entry to clubs, access to backstage, but as we got older and settled down the reality was so different to what we knew. Gone were the lost weekends and in their place was the mundane grown up life. He could never quite let that go (he still hasn't) and when we were trying for a baby he just wanted to go out and couldn't see why he should give that up. Some of the happiest days of our lives and friends that turned into family but it wasn't enough in the end.

Theghostofchristmasarse · 17/05/2021 20:53

We met at 25 and 29, we were housemates, with lots of friends, parties, getting drunk etc etc...looking back, I realized he was a little bit on the spectrum, was messy and had a bit of a problem with drink, but I was in love, and I didn't want to be alone..at 25! I wish I'd realised I could be alone and happy...he asked me to marry him after we moved in together properly for my job move and I instantly felt guilty as I didn't really want to, but by then we'd been together 5 years and had bought a house..i felt trapped....babies came along, he was the same hard drinker, didn't really know how to manage them or show affection, or clean up after himself...I fell into it really, guilt. Saying that, we had some great years, traveling, doing DIY, building our careers, two fantastic children...but in the end, things weren't right, I didn't have any respect for him as a husband, I felt exhausted and unsupported with the children and domestic life,plus working full time. He was like 3rd child sometimes and would always give these one word answers, almost gaslighting me into asking for more details, to the simplest request...I started to notice myself looking around, flirting with colleagues, the attention and the feeling of being listened to was lovely..we split last year, april.he was devastated, cried for weeks, drinking heavily, refusing to engage, I realised that when he said he didn't want to try anymore, that my feeling of complete relief meant I'd reached the end of the road...we get along, very flexible about him having the kids, I'm still in the house and we are trying to find a way for me to stay here long term. I realised that when I felt sadder at the thought of leaving the house than I did about not living with him, it really was over...
To friends we've just said we drifted apart, but if I'm honest I definitely had doubts 20 years ago, I just pushed them away, got excited about buying a house, living with someone, having babies 🤷
He's met someone new, so have I (one of the aforementioned colleagues 😬😊) and we are both much happier...we've done the year now, Christmas, birthdays, all have been fine, almost like old times, but I'm still so glad we aren't together. I didnt like the person I became around him, I was a nag, I was turning into my mother and his...I still love him but there's no attraction there, no romantic feelings, I think eventually I'll like him properly again now I don't have to deal with his shit everywhere or being basically a lone parent with three children.
We had counseling, I remember the counsellor, when I said me fancying other men, me being sad and unhappy, wasn't enough of a reason to leave and shake up all our lives...she said, it's enough that you want to leave. That's enough of a reason. Turns out he was unhappy for years too, I'll never know what came first, if my unhappiness caused his, but that's where we were.
Life is difficult now, I worry about money, I have to be careful, I still do everything, but I get a break 2 nights a week, I get to completely do what I want, he's had to step up and take more of an interest in the kids. They barely blinked when I told them, they sometimes struggle at his, but he just takes them shopping and they're happy... Maybe with counseling for a year, with real work, maybe a trial separation, we could have made it work, but I do think the problem was I just didn't want to, and that's enough of a reason too!
I've had a few difficult reactions from some friends, mainly the males of the couple's, who seem worried I'll encourage their wives to skip off into the sunset 😂 and some female friends who rely so heavily on their husbands, I think they just can't see how I'm managing at all. But it's easier, without a dead weight dragging me down and without feeling resentful all the time!

loveyourself2020 · 18/05/2021 18:12

There are many reasons why people may end up separating, and it does not have to be extreme. If you feel unhappy, unsatisfied, longing for better life, that should be a good enough reason for you. I know that we all struggle with what to tell our families and friends. You can tell them whatever you want, are comfortable with, you do not have to go into details it is really nobodies business but yours. I would just say, I am not happy with him anymore.

In my case, it was indeed many little things that over two decades grew into something I could not live with anymore. I realized just recently that what it was really a form of financial and emotional abuse.

loveyourself2020 · 18/05/2021 18:13

Where I live we are eligible for divorce after being separated for a year.