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How to stop him using me as babysitter/emergency childcare provider???

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GreensAreGoodForYou · 30/05/2019 02:00

My husband and I are separated since December and living in different homes since a month ago. He wants 50/50 childcare split so we came up with which days and nights we'd do. All fine. But since we've started this, every single week there's been something he has had to do at work, or he's had to go away (for work) etc so then I have to take care of the kids. I work at home (I work as a journalist and illustrator) so I understand why he sees it as 'oh you can just look after them' but I really cannot earn a full wage this way and I can't even plan my time properly. Should I demand he finds hired help to solve his work event/travel issues? Or should I ask that it not be 50/50 and therefore pay less towards childcare costs? I don't know how to navigate this... any advice welcome!

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BruceAndNosh · 31/05/2019 13:46

I can see that the shared calendar is useful for children's activities.
Use it to your advantage. On the days he is scheduled to have the children, write in the calendar "Greens unavailable for childcare" every single day

Weenurse · 01/06/2019 05:02

Fixed days and/or he pays you for the care you provide.
Look up child minders in your area to see what they are charging.
Then present this proposal to him. On the days that are his, that he expects you to care for them, charge him.

PonderingPanda · 24/07/2019 19:03

@GreensAreGoodForYou - how are things? Have you managed to resolve the issues?

GreensAreGoodForYou · 24/07/2019 22:48

@PonderingPanda Thanks for checking in but you couldn't have picked a worse day for it! I cracked up when I saw this... today is a big FAIL on the 'not being a doormat' front. I have been using an online calendar to mark days when they're with me and then with him, so we're clear and that's good. Except he still gets home an hour or two later than he's supposed to almost every time, and then asks me to watch them when he goes 'food shopping'. I do comment on the lateness and ask for him to add an hour to his time, and I've told him no on the food shopping (it's a ridiculous request, I know!).

Today, though, was a disaster. He's taking the kids away for a couple of days and that in itself has been a non-stop messaging nightmare of 'Where are there X' and 'Should I take the Y?' and "Where can I buy some Z?" I hid the phone so he could figure these things out himself, then the kids started calling me to ask the same things. I turned off the phone. Then he's packing up the car and I'm waiting to say goodbye. He suddenly asks me if the kids have got sunglasses, to which I reply yes, somewhere but I don't know where (we are outside his house, our original family home). He asks me if they can borrow mine from my car because I have 'loads'. I say no, I've only got one pair in there and they're my good ones. He groans and asks me again to look in my car for another set. I repeat that there aren't any in there. He groans again and says WAIT FOR IT... Well, you girls are just going to have to do without sunglasses as your mother is clearly too lazy to find some for you.

The kids are standing right next to me, so I take a deep breath and just say to them, "So I'm lazy because I'm not willing to look for sunglasses in my car that I know don't exist?" and then laugh.

It gets worse! Everything is packed and then he suddenly realises that one of the car doors won't shut! Not because of anything jammed in it, the mechanism is broken somehow. Cue about 20 minutes of slamming the door, turning engine on and off, locking and unlocking and more slamming but it's buggered. This means they can't leave. They can't go! They only have two nights away so it's not like they can delay a day. So I say, Take my car, I'll take yours to get fixed tomorrow. He IGNORES me, and carries on slamming the door. I start moving stuff from his car to mine, realising it's the only way I'm going to get them to go (by now I've been standing and saying goodbye to the kids for nearly two hours!). Eventually he gets in the car and they go off. NOT A WORD OF THANKS. I was actually laughing because he's SUCH A KNOB. Which makes me so glad I've left him.

Anyway, it is all annoying for me, but I'm just glad the kids get to go on their trip. And I'm on my own for a couple of days and bought myself a little bottle of champagne to enjoy. But yeah, I'm still doormattting - but ONLY when it's for the benefit of the kids.

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cstaff · 24/07/2019 23:38

@greensaregoodforyou
Bloody hell, what a palava and all for the sake of 2 days. I hope you enjoy your days and don't have any more calls from him. Enjoy your champagne. You definitely deserve it Wine

cstaff · 24/07/2019 23:40

Also you are not the FAIL. No question who is in this case OP.

GreensAreGoodForYou · 25/07/2019 00:09

@cstaff, thank you, I truly appreciate you saying that. Drinking the bubbly now... Phone is off!

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happyasasandboy · 25/07/2019 03:41

You're not failing! You're balancing you / a new type of relationship with a man-child / your kids lives. That's a tough balance.

I wouldn't get his car fixed though. You've facilitated the trip for the kids by loaning your car, and that's enough. Just swap cars when they come back and say nothing more than "it isn't my car to get fixed" if he asks about it.

cantfindname · 25/07/2019 04:16

I feel sad for your kids. This really comes across to me that both of you find them to be a nuisance and neither of you is willing to step up and care for them.

I appreciate you are trying to work, but so is your ex.

I would have hated to feel so entirely unwanted by both my parents.

PonderingPanda · 25/07/2019 04:40

Completely disagree with cantfindname .
I have had to be firm as well previously. It's not about not wanting the children, it's about balancing everything....and that includes time for yourself.

He chose to go 50/50 therefore he has to actually do it.

I think you have done really good, l don't see any fails at all.

SD1978 · 25/07/2019 05:00

A lawyer, and not a 50/50 split is the only option. You don't get to claim 50/50 and then back out all the time. You need to become the RP, and he needs to accept he is the NRP. Whilst I do believe there should be some flexibility- this isn't flexibility it's taking the piss. Don't stoop to petty engaging though- it won't help, even if it seems to. Keep messages neutral and straight forward. No I am not able to cover your childcare needs, I am working. No apology, no explanation- because you don't need to justify yourself.

SD1978 · 25/07/2019 05:04

@cantfindname I'm not sure how you perceive that? The OP has bent over backwards to accomodate childcare needs when her ex does the opposite. Her ex works when he wants, leaving the OP to pick up the pieces. I think we have been reading very different posts. Is she supposed to give up work and only work when he allows it?!

MyOtherProfile · 25/07/2019 05:31

What did your lawyer say, OP? Did you officially sort out 50/50?

tomatoesandstew · 25/07/2019 06:02

I wouldn't get into the petty disputes as you will both get dragged down.
Stick with the facts keep a record and review with your solicitor.

MintyT · 25/07/2019 06:32

Why don't you say this 50/50 clearly isn't working so it's now every other weekend and evenings for tea, then if he wants 50/50 let him work for it. My mother told me if you act like a doormat people will wipe their feet on you

Palaver1 · 26/07/2019 07:06

cantfindname
Why would you say that or even think that, what more is she to do ..Thats a very unkind thing to say especially as it’s her little moment of victory you just had to stamp on it.
OP it’s not working sort something out .for the sake of your sanity as well as your work life balance get it sorted .

jamaisjedors · 26/07/2019 09:15

Well done, you are doing really well, flex those new-found muscles - do NOT get his car fixed.

It's hard to balance facilitating the kids and not "giving in" to your ex.

In this car situation you have done the right thing by lending your car (big picture) and refusing to get the sunglasses (small picture).

I totally understand why you want 50/50 - my ex is also a professor and has already emailed via his lawyer the dates he will be away at conferences etc just expecting me to step up.

My situation is a bit more complicated at the moment so no 50/50 (long running threads in relationships) but I can see a lot of the same traits as in my work needs to be flexible but H's oh so important job cannot.

You are doing great.

Weenurse · 28/07/2019 07:44

Well done

7yo7yo · 29/07/2019 21:08

Op.
Get legal advice.
If you are entitled to more than 50/50 from the house/pensions etc then get that.
You are being a doormat.
Don’t get his car fixed.
If he’s taking the kids away, why did you need to see them if? Say bye from yours then go out.
Just because you live close it doesn’t mean you need to see them away from his house.

Yeahnahmum · 05/08/2019 14:11

Stop exchanging childish text with him. It will not help anything.

And stop doing a l l this stuff for him like findinf a hairbrush and making spaghetti bolognesa etc!!!! If the kids are in his care HE should figure out replacement care etc

Learn to say NO op.

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