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Men v Women

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 11:33

I have been reading some posts and i must say how alarmed i am with the majority of womens attitudes towards men.

ask yourselves these few questions:

are all men the same?
do we like the sames things?
do we all support the same football teams?
do we all enjoy cricket?
do we all smoke?
do we all drink?
do we all do the same work?
do we all cheat on our partners?
do we all enjoy reality tv?

and we could go on forever couldnt we?
the answer to these few questions is NO

we all make our own choices, we are individuals.

we have good attributes that we have learned and some we have from our beginnings from our parents ect

the same goes for the bad attributes.

so we are not all the same.

answer these few questions

do they all moan?
do they all whinge?
do they all like handbags and shoes?
do they all like the same things?
do they all like X factor?
do they all like to gossip?
do they all like to bitch?
do they all to put other women down?
do they all think they are right?

the answer to the above is
YES!!

if you had two islands 1000 miles apart,
1 had 100 men on it and the other had 100 women

which island would be the most calm most contented and which island would advance more quickly?

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 12:56

Gingeme - Taking them home & bathing them - clever, bit like our finger test isnt it - dip the finger & itch your nose

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 12:58

Any women what a mans perspective on anything, i will be brutally honest & tell you exactly how it is in my view/opinion.

p.s - remember LOVE your man

I am off too but will be back later to see others answers

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WigWamBam · 08/07/2006 13:00

There are some interesting double-standards on this thread, I think.

Why is it wrong for women to generalise about men, yet it's OK for you to write such sweeping generalisations about women? Surely you could be accused of being guilty of judging all women by what you have at home?

Maybe I moan, maybe I whinge, but I can't be doing with handbags and shoes, I have never watched the X-Factor, I don't like the same things as every other woman (bloody hell, wouldn't that be boring?), I gossip sometimes but I don't bitch, I don't put other women (or men for that matter) down, and I am quite happy to accept that I'm not always right, and that my opinion isn't the only valid one. Oh, and I hug a lot of trees as well ... so I can't be all bad

Generalisations are equally wrong, whichever way they're thrown - don't you think?

LittleCarlos · 08/07/2006 13:08

The finger test that is foul!

fullmoonfiend · 08/07/2006 13:41

WWB - join my (non-gender specific) treehugging clique

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 13:47

WigWamBam - Your SPOT on

I am doing exactly what i say women do, maybe i have a thing about women, who knows.

I do own a handbag, i do love shoes & i like trees to

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 13:59

this women/man thing is kinda f**d up dont you think?
mindshaker

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Gingeme · 08/07/2006 14:03

What do you want to know dear?

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 14:06

i want to know......

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 14:09

where these feelings of men are better than women or vice versa actually come from?

are we born with them?

do we learn them?

do we judge all members of the opposite sex by the ones we have surrounded ourselves with?

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Gingeme · 08/07/2006 14:13

Erm parents/role models, media,history,genes. Ok Ill hold my hands up and say Im not sure realy. Like when I bought my ds a cup last week and the only colour they had was pink. I bought it and eveyone who sees it comments about it! Why? Its a cup FFS!

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 14:16

PINK!!!

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 14:16
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Gingeme · 08/07/2006 14:18

yES PINK. Its called an anywayupcup and DOESNT leak in the least. But Ive only ever seen them in Boots and they had one left which happened to be pink! So yes I think alot of it we learn from babies. Boys should wear blue etc...

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 14:21

So we are taught pink for girls blue for boys etc etc but really a cup is a cup so why does it matter?

I think instead of trying to change others around us so we can function correctly, its actually down to us to change.

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Gingeme · 08/07/2006 14:23

Exactly. I think so much is drummed into us as kids its hard to make our own minds up sometimes. Like Daddy is the bread winner and has been for years but what about 'house husbands and single Dads that are so frowned upon. If it works for them so be it.

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 14:24

I dont want my daughter to grow up not liking men & i dont want my son growing up not liking women, why do we teach them the negative side of things?

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edam · 08/07/2006 14:24

MS, given we've been living with a patriarchy for the best part of 2,000 years, I think it's up to you lot to explain yourselves. Why do men think they are innately superior to women?

As for judging all men by the standards of the ones I've known.. well, not really. No more than I judge any stranger by the standards of people I've known. I judge men I don't know - men who spout off in the media, whether journalist or members of the public - about saying 'she was asking for it' or 'breastfeeding in public is disgusting'. And I judge any woman who says those things, too. My judgement is they are ignorant and selfish.

LittleCarlos · 08/07/2006 14:26

Its not only that we are taught pink = girls etc by our parents, its because big toy companys market different types at toys at boys/girls which enforce the gender stereotype. Lego for example used to come in green/yellow (colours for both) but then they realised they could sell more by aiming it specifically at each gender. And their sales grew, because we all buy into the whole girl/boy type thing.

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 14:27

Personally deep down in me my true beliefs are i work put food on the table & earn the money & my wife keeps the house,looks after the kids etc because thats how i believe it is, thats tradition if you like. If we didnt have kids & my wife worked then i believe we should share the house,life responsibilities & if my wife worked & i stayed at home i believe the roles should be reversed.

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Gingeme · 08/07/2006 14:27

Oh yes edam well and so say all of us .

Gingeme · 08/07/2006 14:32

Can I please ask you MindShaker do you help around the house at all even though your lovely wife is at home all day?

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 14:32

Edam - I personally don't think i am any better than any women, i am NOT selfish or ignorant.

whats happened since time began is not MY doing it is how it is, the problem you have is not with men today its with history, if every women had your attitude blaming man today for the faults of man then we are never going to progress will keep going round in circles, isnt it time to sort this out?

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MindShaker · 08/07/2006 14:33

Honestly - not all the time no!

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Gingeme · 08/07/2006 14:36

But you occasionaly lend a hand like cook the odd meal and wash up etc?