New petition to put refugee camp at Killiney beach

[eastcarolina]

Hi all,

just happened across this petition in a Facebook group today. Looks like it was only recently created, but does anyone know the legal weight of this if it gains momentum?

The site is only 300 metres from Holy Child Secondary school.. not to mention that stretch of beach being popular with young and older people alike. Would the council have to consider this if the petition is successful?

www.change.org/killiney_emergency_accomodation

What's your problem with refugees being housed near a school or a popular beach?

The refugees deserve better than tents though.

I’ve signed the petition. Thanks for the heads up!

Personally I would not want my DD to be at school beside a camp like that. Unfortunately a small minority of (male) refugees do not seem to understand western boundaries when it comes to the safety of women and girls. Sexual assault cases and catcalling have taken a massive upward spike where we live in direct correlation with the opening of ‘refugee hotels’. DD and her friends now feel unsafe in their home town which is an absolute disgrace.

Ffs

I disagree with your views on refugees, but leaving that aside for now they do need to be housed somewhere. Wherever that is, it'll be near a school because schools are plentiful - why shouldn't it be near a private school in a beautiful location?

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You're wasting your time OP, mumsnetters love a refugee centre as long as it isn't anywhere near them.

What are you assuming my view on refugees to be considering I never even mentioned it? I simply said that a small minority of men are crossing a line and doing their community a massive disservice. People are angry that their daughters aren’t as safe as they once were (and rightly so). Unfortunately this means that tensions have boiled over and all of the other 1000s of refugees who have done no wrong are suffering abuse, as we saw in Belfast yesterday.

But if the refugees need to be housed, why shouldn't that be in Killiney? Does OP think they should just be in Tallaght or Coolock?

OP simply said that she doesn’t believe that they should be housed so close to a school. You are wrongly (and I suspect intentionally) making this argument into a typical MN class war.

How many places do you know of that aren't near a school?

Have any of you been to Killiney beach - it has no sand - it's all stones. Nice try though 🙄

Well it was started yesterday and has a grand total of 7 signatures so I wouldn't worry too much about whether it'll hold any weight.

I didn’t mean to come across like this, I suppose just it’s been more of a background thing in the news and now it’s on our doorstep. My DD is in the school and it’s just made me more aware of some “what ifs” and maybe just worrying excessively

@WickieRoy You failed to answer my first question re: your (wrong) assumptions. Care to explain my own supposed thoughts to me?

Re: your question about schools, I know plenty of places that aren’t basically next door to one. You are being pedantic.

So... NIMBY then. At least you're admitting it.

Considering some of the hotels they are currently being burnt and attacked there will be more temporary places needed.

I dint believe there are any people who are t nimbys. Do I think we need some housing/prisons? Yes.
do I want them built on my own idyllic village? No.

okay well first of all there’s no need for name calling. I’m simply saying that I wasn’t as aware of the topic as I was before. I’m sure that all of us in Killiney/Ballybrack would be a bit more civilised in welcoming any displaced people than the scenes we’ve seen recently in Dublin. But it doesn’t mean that we can’t discuss our worries 😊

There was civil unrest in my town a couple of years ago. We got lambasted in the press for it. What the press didn’t report was how the young asylum seeking men hung outside the hotel all day and harassed the young girls walking to and from school.

It’s not safe. But hey, so long as those young men get treated nicely eh. The safety of our young women doesn’t matter.

Great, Wickieboy is volunteering to have them in their back yard.

They are a YIMBY.

Refugees are housed in a hotel in my town that I walk past all the time. The only reason I'm aware of that is that there are occasional protests outside. I've never witnessed any untoward behaviour or heard of any. They're very welcome as far as I'm concerned.

I grew up near Killiney and went to the other pretty (cheaper!) girls school just down the coast. I see no reason why refugees shouldn't be housed in that area, although I do maintain they deserve better than tents.

There are asylum seekers housed in a few places near Killiney anyway, so what's the difference?

I have to say that it sounds like the daftest idea going - housing people in tents on an unsheltered shingly beach- I suspect someone is pulling your leg, OP, or worse still is planting daft ideas to see if they can elicit an irrational response.
There are men all over Ireland, totally unvetted, carrying out a horrific number of crimes against women and children, and there's no reason to believe that the men who are housed in the two IPAS centres near where I live are more or less likely to rape or kill women or schoolgirls than their Irish fellow-men.

When I lived in England, I lived closer still to asylum seekers - on the same street in fact, so living near refugees/asylum seekers isn't a 'wouldn't it be awful' possibility, it's something I have first hand experience of. And guess what? they are just people.

Pebbles don't burn so hopefully nobody will try to burn Killiney Beach down on the basis of this rumour..

Have we considered the possibility that the proposal might not be 100% serious?