Petrol crisis, I want to protest to the Govt!

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It's horrendously expensive yet all the venom is directed at the oil companies.

They are not to blame, it is the Government and their ridiculous fuel escalator which means we pay 70 pence in the pound to them on Petrol.

I want to protest and I think they would take notice of us. It could be a deal breaker at the election.

Obviously all Green's look away now. This is aimed at car drivers primarily but inflation will be skewed by the inordinate cost of fuel which of course gets passed on to consumers of everything.

Fancy a March????

Disclaimer:-This thread was inspired by a thread.

I wish more people on here would say "buggered if I know" it is so refreshing.

We are miles from a bus route and diesel is £1.20 a liter here so we don't go on day trips or anything.
I think the outgoing MPs should come and hand dig our fields seeing as we paid for their bloody duck sheds and the like. The price of basic food is rising because of the farmer's overheads and tax and not because farmers are being greedy.

what i find difficult to grasp is how quickly people have become dependant on cars

our children cycled or walked to school every day, come rain come shine,(All of two miles !!)and everyone thought it was amazing!

it wasnt amazing, it was just normal behaviour.My husband carries the most weird and ingeneous loads on his bike,and I just think thats normal too.
You are so right riven.petrol is very precious,and who said life was supposed to be easy?

While China and America are gobbling up fuel at an enormous rate the little amount we use is negligable.

If the whole world is not taxed at the same rate it gives an unfair competition advantage in those countries where fuel is cheap.

Hence America is pulled way out of recession while we're still crapping ourselves about the size of our unmanageable debt.

Alouiseq - just because other people are behaving badly doesnt mean we should - surely you tell that to your dcs all the time?

Gosh thats not that cheap in the US there gallon is only 3 and 3 quarter litres rather than nearly 5 litres here

The price will effect food prices and effect small haulage firms and possibly be there ruin.

I am able to cycle to work and back and in and out of town, I car share with another houshold as this means we get to share the cost of the car, which makes it cheaper, I would love to see more car drivers out of their cars and walking or cycling. The car drivers don't actually reaslie it would be quicker on a bike

I am at how much it cost me to fill my car this weekend. £60!!!! and actually stopped at that amount i could have filled it up more, that will last me 10 days at a stretch. (its a v40 not a 4x4 or anything) i do need my car to get to work, it may only be 15 miles but i had to go by bus one morning last october and it took 2 hours!! 2 hours ffs!! one bus to town then half hour wait for next bus to work place. there are no train services to get me there and refuse to bike along dual carrige way with ds2 on back of bike (he goes to nursery at my workplace).
I there were more reliable bus services then i would use them. I go to london once a week and love the underground, its seems so easy to get to a to b. (it does take 3 and a half hours by train to get there though)

i make ds1 walk to school and at weekends 1 try not to use the car and we bike or walk, lierally to save some petrol for getting to work.

If the Government was actually serious about running out of oil they would actually RATION it as opposed to TAX it.

How is taxing it making it last any longer?

I'm off to do my second £100 fill up this month. Inflation will be a problem and it will be driven by fuel prices, food will go up correspondingly as company profits will go down. Jobs will be lost and then we'll be in a spiral of rising inflation and escalating unemployment. It's Stagflation at it's purest.

Car sharing is the future. We have a scheme where you can rent a car for £4 an hour and pay a small charge for mileage (fuel) and £36 for the day. Its a scheme that could be rolled out across the country.

The people who run who run the scheme reckon every one of their cars takes between 4-6 private cars off the road.

The only downside is that you have to drive a car with bright green advertising on the side!!

Just out of interest, how much is a liter of petrol or diesel in your area?

Petrol is £1.19
Diesel is £1.20 in the cheapest place in Perth.
Some of the rural garages are charging an awful lot more than this.

Riven - why not start a wheel car accessible car club - there must be others around that think the same.

Petrol here £1.25 yesterday I saw at BP garage. I was in portugal over easter and petrol was Euro 1.35 so taking 10% of for exchange rate atm it is £1.22 a litre in portugal - I was shocked Deisal was cheaper

I use around £5 of petrol per week and get 10 miles to the litre, every fortnight I do a ten mile trip to drama club but another mum picks up so we both only do one trip and I do a sports club 20 mile trip and share that with anothe mum, one week I go and the other week she goes.

£1.24 petrol round here. Motorway services a lot dearer

Riven I love you when it comes to car threads.

(non driver too)

When Greece defaults and the European banking system collapses due to unprecedented toxic debt, which they have not yet purged, the fear of a second, more virulent recession will force the price of oil lower just as it collapsed from $147 to $35 during the recent credit crunch. God help us all if Spain and Italy then go cap in hand to Germany and the IMF!

It appears odd but the Saudi's do not want oil above $100 because they know at high prices the volume of demand is significantly less than when its between $80 and $100. They do not only sell their oil for delivery today they sell it for a period of five or ten years and what country or company will hedge its energy cost for the next decade at $125? Much of the oil price rise is directly due to a lack of reinvestment by The Middle East in their oil fields so when the price rises too far they do not have the ability to pump more barrels. Much of the Saudi oil fields are wrought with crumbling infrastructure which hasn't been updated for decades.

The World's oil shale deposits which perhaps amount to 3 Trillion barrels of oil are currently economically viable when long term price exceeds $80. As the mining process is made more efficient via new technology the reliance on geopolitically risky energy supplies diminishes as this price barrier becomes lower.

As for UK petrol i wouldn't be surprised if we actually have the cheapest forecourt prices in the world. We are charged so much because of the government tax take which i think is now almost £0.70 pence per litre. I am rarely one to praise the socialist French but i do think enough is enough and the public should take a leaf out of France's book and protest against such a heinous rip off.

So daddy why are french paying more for petrol?

Re France - Because of the disparity between the diesel and petrol rates for starters. So they pay more tax for the petrol but less for the diesel.

And the hypermarket sector is less dominant so its a different market - the oil companies dont compete on price as much because they have one big dominant player that didnt want to compete on price.

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