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Want to move up North

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Lala1962 · 21/09/2024 23:59

My partner (32) and I (29) currently live in Surrey in the South East. He is born and bred here and his mum, siblings, grandparents and friends all live here. He has never lived further away than 30 minutes down the road. I am a military brat and moved around every 2 years as a child. My parents have since retired and now live in the North West, where they are from, with the rest of my extended family. I lived with them for 4 years as a late teen. I ended up in Surrey due to uni and stayed for a job but likely would have moved back to the NW a few years ago if I hadn’t met my partner unexpectedly. My friends are dotted all over the country. Partner and I have recently had a baby who was somewhat of a wonderful surprise.

In the past few years the SE has become completely unaffordable to live for normal working people. We both have decent jobs but still are out-priced with property. Currently we live in a tiny cottage through partner’s work and pay below market rate but we have outgrown it. Before DD we would have been able to afford to rent elsewhere had anything happened to this property but now with DD and the ridiculous cost of childcare (even with govt support) we’d only be able to rent a small 1-bed flat at best in the same area. We both want more children but simply cannot afford either to house more or to have them cared for here. We would (and will) be very much living month to month with very little left over. Whilst I aim to move up in my profession, this will be gradual and the salary increase not significant enough to impact what we can afford here probably for a few decades!

We both share the same goal to own a property and get on the housing ladder as soon as possible. We met with a mortgage adviser a few weeks ago who essentially told us we couldn’t afford to buy in the South East and, with our deposit and income/childcare, we’d be looking at buying a max of £200k comfortably.

My opinion is that we should make the move up North near my family, so we would at least have some kind of familiarity and support. The housing prices are significantly cheaper and we could easily afford a lovely 3-bed family starter home and have money left over each month to save for a holiday, go out for meals, visit the south east etc. I can do my job from anywhere in the country. My partner is self-employed but can easily set himself up in the NW. My parents own a second home they rent out which we could live in for cheap rent whilst we are getting ourselves sorted. As well as the NW giving us a better life, I also feel we should be giving our DD a better opportunity for her future instead of staying here and putting her in the same position we are currently in. We could move elsewhere that is not as far from SE but my partner and I are both massive introverts and don’t make friends easily so I think it’s important to be somewhere with pre-existing support. I also think that once it’s over an hour, it doesn’t matter if you’re 2 or 5 hours away as you still need to plan to visit in the same way especially with children.

Understandably, my partner is terrified of leaving and moving away from this area. He actually said he was ‘petrified’ last week. He goes back and forward with the idea but ultimately I know won’t do anything unless he is pushed. Whilst I completely appreciate his fears of leaving behind his family and friends, I am a bit disappointed he is only looking at this and not fully appreciating what is best for his own family’s future (me and DD). I feel we are worth more than what we can get here. Ultimately we simply do not have a very promising future here and will just be stuck in the tiny cottage we both hate and unable to buy or have any more children. I have very strong relationships with my family and friends who are all long distance (arguably stronger) so am living proof that the distance will not end any relationships he currently has.

I have tried to discuss it with him to take next steps but haven’t got anywhere although he has made concessions that we would be better off up North. I don’t know what to do to move forwards with this and also am now doubting whether I’m being unreasonable by even suggesting a move up to the NW. It doesn’t help that his mum is not overly supportive (last week she said if she ever came into any money she wouldn’t give us any towards a property if it meant we would leave her). His mum has been in council housing and had support as a single mother all her life so doesn’t really understand our predicament. My parents just want me/us to be happy.

I know that this is not an issue only impacting us and I do think it’s very sad that people like my partner are priced out of the area they grew up in and where their families live. My partners friends who have bought in this area have all had financial assistance and those who have not likely will also need to move once they start having families etc.

So two questions..

  1. AIBU to suggest/want to move up North?
  2. If not, how can I try to move things forwards with my partner?
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Lala1962 · 23/09/2024 00:54

Thistooshallpass24 · 23/09/2024 00:25

I was trying to be helpful, that's fine I've reported my comment to be removed.

No problem and thank you for your input :) Just wanted to clarify as I know I referred to the north as a blanket term in my post but in reality I know exactly what area of the north we’d be looking at and the prices/opportunities in that place! ‘The north’ is a very large place so prices will vary significantly across the region.

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Thistooshallpass24 · 23/09/2024 01:00

@Lala1962 lots of ppl say "I want to move to the North" thinking it's so much cheaper, yes certain areas are, I thought you'd mentioned £20000 house price, that would not get much where I am, maybe a flat? I was trying to be helpful, but see you're clearly on it. Good luck with everything

Bjorkdidit · 23/09/2024 05:33

But there's so much more choice of housing at lower price points.

MN will always cite south Manchester and North Leeds as examples of where to live, where prices are high but the reality is that there are other areas of these cities that are perfectly decent, safe places to live with good schools and easy access to amenities.

For example, the next door house to a friend of mine has just sold for under £200k for a 3 bed semi with a garage (decorating a bit dated but perfectly clean and well maintained just not 'modern') in a nice village that has a bus every 10 minutes to Leeds and another city in about 15 minutes, easy access to motorways, nice pubs, countryside, good community feel and that's the normal sort of house in this area.

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Lala1962 · 23/09/2024 08:51

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I’m not going to say as I don’t want opinions on the area itself - there’s good and bad about every area and I am aware of both for where my parents live. Personally I like it and hope that by exploring a bit more my partner will too! At the moment he’s not explored the area enough to know but the plan is to help him do so.

I know what house prices are like for the area, job opportunities and what we can realistically afford with all factors considered so not looking for advice in that respect. Just how I can help my partner be more open to the idea of moving for the benefit of our family and I have had that advice from PPs.

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suki1964 · 23/09/2024 11:57

OP, we were in the same position coming 20 years ago, looking at needing a half a million pound mortgage to buy a house that could accommodate our family - step children, grandchildren and parents - living in Surrey

DH could theoretically work anywhere , although would take a cut in wages unless he commuted. I didnt have a career so a job anywhere for me so I started looking up the country for cheaper housing and it was Norfolk before we were in with a chance

DH was from Northern Ireland , my family are from Ireland, he had always said he wanted to go home at some point, whilst me being a typical Londoner thought the world stated and ended within the M25, and it just made sense to start looking over here - Northern Ireland

So we made the move - 500 miles to a place where neither of us knew a soul, but at least we were now just 50 miles from the step kids and his brothers and sisters, and it seriously was the best thing we ever did.

Aged 42, we were mortgage free, had moved from a two up two down mid terrace ex council house to a 5 bedroom detached house with a 1/3rd of an acre in one of the most beautiful parts of the country

For a few years DH commuted back and forth to London until he had enough. Sure we miss the money but with no mortgage we manage ok. We have really settled into the community here, we have more friends now then we ever had. We are so laid back now we arent on that treadmill of long hours, high pressure to keep up with the bills for a decent standard of living

As a born and bred Londoner , it did take me a few years to completely settle but now I couldn't imagine living back there. I dont even go over to London anymore, if I fancy a city break its Liverpool, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Manchester I head to

There really is a better standard of life away from the SE of England

Zanatdy · 24/09/2024 05:34

100% you should move. I’ve lived in the South east for 23yrs now and I love it here, but I am moving to the north west in 18 months when my youngest DD goes to Uni. I’ve been waiting years to move back, didn’t want to disrupt the kids education. I am renting a flat here, up there I can buy a house. Yes it’s scary to move, I moved here age 24 on my own with a 7yr old child. I am excited for a move back north, I’m going to another area rather than where I grew up but still within an hours drive max to family. I can’t wait. He needs to understand you can’t afford to live in the south east.

Sue1763 · 21/10/2025 22:28

I was living in wales and I decided to move up North to be close to family the first year was good. We went out together done lots of family things but things started to change. I noticed they stopped going out me I stopped doing everything they started lying to me by messages made excuses. This situation got to the point I had to cut them out of my life because my mental health was getting really bad that I wasn't coping. I had to ring samaritans because I was in a very bad way I feel like I completely messed up my life and I just don't know what to do anymore and how to move on from this horrible situation family caused.

LancashireSquirrel · 21/10/2025 22:36

What did you decide to do, OP?

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