I got caught shoplifting

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I really didn't know what topic to choose for this

I'm mortified, I got caught shoplifting in boots today, I was stealing baby milk and a facial moisturiser. I'm so ashamed of myself. It was in the city center aswell. They didn't call police but they took my details, took a picture and told me I can't return to the store again

Will this picture and my details go around to the other shops near by or will it just go to the other boots shops.

I can't believe I was stupid enough to do this! I'm so embarrassed and also feel really guiltily!

Whether I'm entitled to PIP or not is irrelevant. UC should be enough to live on.

You're just making this up as you go along, aren't you? I'm able to work because you know I was at the supermarket once? I really don't think you can extrapolate whether I'm well enough to work based on one visit to the supermarket.

That's nice for you that you're bessy mates with your consultant. It's a bit ludicrous to expect that consultants countrywide have a close personal relationship with each of their patients. I doubt mine remembers what my name is.

Honestly, I've read some nonsense on MN in my time, but you're getting close to topping it with this bilge.

if your not receiving daily care and are able to go to the supermarket and things your probably not entitled to it anyway

People can be eligible for PIP and still be able to go to the supermarket and not need daily care from someone else.

Do you hear yourself when you talk iv given you advice on how to get pip and how I got pip as you said your disabled and go to bed hungry as you can't afford to buy food so you go to supermarkets and stand their feeling dizzy because you haven't eaten so contemplate stealing food. You said you where denied pip as pip is hard to get I agreed with you pip is a hard benefit. I then said can your care team help you, you laughed at this and said i was living on a magic roundabout as you can't comprehended people have care co-ordinators and care teams. I then said contact your consultant you said you couldn't until you get another appointment I advised you that you could contact his/her secretary more laughing faces and then a comment about me having a cup of tea with my bezzie mate the dr. Now your saying everything iv written is the most nonsense you've ever read on mumsnet. Really

Thank you, exactly.

She'll say literally anything to blame people for causing their own poverty. She can't seem to take it far enough. Anything so long as it isn't to admit that the cost of living has risen to an unaffordable level, which anyone with half a brain can see for themselves.

Absolutely but probably not high rate

This is a tangent to the thread but a few people have mentioned how fathers get away with not paying for their children.

So, if a mother didn't provide for her child, and that child went hungry etc, she would likely have them taken off her and/or charged with neglect (severe cases).

Yet, if a father cannot support his children, nothing happens to him. It doesn't make any sense.

Healthy start from the government still do the vouchers/tokens I believe. It will always separate because money could be spent on other things and milk tokens needed to be traded.

It's called healthy start it's done on like a bank card now

Actually, you can.

For example, it is possible to be eligible for the enhanced daily living component if someone scores:
2 points for needing an aid and appliance to prepare or cook a simple meal.
2 points for needing an aid and appliance to take nutrition
2 points for needing an aid and appliance to wash or bathe.
2 points for needing an aid and appliance for toileting needs.
2 points for needing an aid and appliance to dress.
2 points for needing an aid and appliance to read or understand basic or complex written information.

And, for example, it is possible to be eligible for the enhanced mobility component if someone scores 12 points if they can stand and move more than 1m but less than 20m aided or unaided.

Some in this scenario would be able to go to the supermarket and not require care daily from another person.

Ok, let's go through this carefully, shall we?

You said you where denied pip

I did not say this.

you go to supermarkets

When I'm well enough, I occasionally go to the supermarket. I don't go regularly as I'm often not well enough. You didn't clarify that before making an assumption.

I then said can your care team help you

I don't have a care team.

I then said contact your consultant you said you couldn't until you get another appointment

That's correct. I can't speak to my consultant until I have an appointment with him.

you could contact his/her secretary

Yes, I could. And they'll arrange an appointment with the consultant. See answer above.

Now your saying everything iv written is the most nonsense you've ever read on mumsnet. Really

Not quite, but I have read some absolute horseshit on here in my time. You're certainly making a concerted effort to blame me for struggling to buy what I need because I'm disabled and the cost of living has risen, which is getting pretty ridiculous now with the lengths you're going to.

@PaillettenBedeckt Your attitude is appalling. You seem incapable of having a civilised debate without hurling personal insults at other posters.

If someone isn't well enough for work and ineligible for PIP, they should still have enough money to live on.

If someone is a mother of a young child or has other caring responsibilities and are unable to work, they should still have enough money to live on.

If someone is out of work through no fault of their own, they should still have enough money to live on.

I was actually trying to help if your going to bed hungry and your to disabled to work you should be getting pip. I assumed from your post saying how hard pip is to get that you had tried and been turned down so I said you need to enlist the help of all the professionals incharge of your care to help you and not to try to do it yourself as it's stressful and the dwp are vile to pip claimants. I was just telling you what I did I took a step back and let them all deal with it because it's a horrific but nobody should be going to bed hungry and it's why where lucky in this country to have a benefits system so that people don't have to. If you don't have a care team, citizens advice can also help with pip forms and I think their is some online groups that help to. I will always back disabled people to get the benefits that they are entitled to

PIP is not an out of work benefit.

We're speaking specifically about the OP.

That is correct I work and get pip

Then you should know just because someone is unable to work doesn’t necessarily mean they are eligible for PIP.

Sorry I read that the opposite way round I thought you meant it's not means tested meaning you can still work and get pip.

Ok sorry for you, if financially desperate understand .If not also sorry for you as you need help. Stores might share info but I doubt it they dont have the technology unless they are pursuing mass offenders or credit card fraud. Don’t stress you made a mistake but were not arrested or convicted. Don’t be afraid shop elsewhere and don’t be tempted again could be worse next time.

It is not means tested either, but my post was in response to you stating “to disabled to work you should be getting pip”. Being unable to work does not always mean one is eligible for PIP.

I’m not arguing about who should/shouldn’t be working, and amounts of money, but….

As someone long term disabled (physical) who and where are these care teams?

I’ve never had this care team and the NHS is a complete shit show now. 🙄

So true

We do have a benefits system. But the amount people are given is not enough to live on.

You must be able to see that if you accept that I need to claim another benefit in order to be able to afford food, UC is not enough. UC should be enough to live on without having to claim PIP.

We agree that the way PIP is organised is deeply hostile to the claimants. However, this is done to ensure that people are unable to claim what they are entitled to. That's not indicative of a healthy benefits system.

A benefits system that doesn't give its claimants enough money to buy food is clearly failing its goal.

Unless the goal is to ensure that people are hungry and cold to punish them for being poor, in which case it is succeeding. The fact that this is happening to mothers of young babies and the disabled is disgusting.

You've made many blanket statements about budgeting and being frugal. Certainly enough to give me the impression that you think benefits in general are enough to live on and that all one has to do is cut their cloth accordingly.

I'd love a care team! I can't even get an appointment for urgent medical treatment, let alone have a team of professionals looking after me.

The NHS is a shit show 100%.