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I got caught shoplifting

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RoseBiscuitll · 09/09/2024 15:02

I really didn't know what topic to choose for this

I'm mortified, I got caught shoplifting in boots today, I was stealing baby milk and a facial moisturiser. I'm so ashamed of myself. It was in the city center aswell. They didn't call police but they took my details, took a picture and told me I can't return to the store again

Will this picture and my details go around to the other shops near by or will it just go to the other boots shops.

I can't believe I was stupid enough to do this! I'm so embarrassed and also feel really guiltily!

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rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 10/09/2024 12:09

Yesitsme22 · 10/09/2024 12:07

I don't think 300 is much at all . But 3 times I have suggested op applies for discretionary housing payment. This means the shortfall will get paid for op . Its for people like op if the rent is above the LHA and other reasons. Which would them give op more to live on so she would nlt struggle as much. But it seems to have gone unseen even though I done 2 links and a general message.

I totally understand why op may have tried to steal baby milk. It was probably a desperate moment and didn't know what to do or how she would feed baby etc. It's been done now though. But op does need to find a better way.

£300 is a significant amount for one adult and one child.

Mrsttcno1 · 10/09/2024 12:11

NasiDagang · 10/09/2024 12:09

Have you been to a local food bank? Will you eat the food provided? Out of date vegetables and cheap tins of food!

I do volunteer at 2 of our local foodbanks regularly and would absolutely eat any of the food we hand out there.

And also, as an aside, “Cheap tins of food” is still food, and when you are hungry anything is better than nothing. Again, nobody is saying food banks are amazing and the best place to find high quality meals, but they DO provide a safety net of food and when you truly have no money to feed yourself or your kids you couldn’t give a flying fuck if it’s Heinz beans or Aldi beans- they will both serve as a hot meal for your children.

Yesitsme22 · 10/09/2024 12:12

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 10/09/2024 12:09

£300 is a significant amount for one adult and one child.

I don't think it is. not with how much things costs now but that's just my thoughts does not mean I'm right though.

Wineandcupcakes · 10/09/2024 12:13

NasiDagang · 10/09/2024 12:09

Have you been to a local food bank? Will you eat the food provided? Out of date vegetables and cheap tins of food!

Where are you that yours is like that, that’s unusual. Ni it’s not expensive food but it’s not out of date and generally a variety of bog standard foods

RoyallyEFFEDOFF · 10/09/2024 12:13

Looking at the criteria for DHP’s I don’t even think the OP would be entitled to one given her current circumstances
All of ours are only issued in the event of HB reductions, moving costs, reduction in HB for HA tenants and the bedroom tax and shortfalls to prevent homelessness. I don’t think you can get one anymore simply for not being able to afford your rent. What a shambles housing has become

ns87 · 10/09/2024 12:13

Shoplifting is also part of the reason costs have gone up.

Livelovebehappy · 10/09/2024 12:15

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 00:16

Don't worry. Some people have nothing better to do than pick on other people. The good and kind people understand. There will always be bullies and bad people, but you've got lots of us on your side and that's what matters in life.

I get it. I would have stolen the milk too. And the moisturiser. I'm sure a huge business like Boots can cope with losing a few quid. You needed it a lot more than they did.

I'm only sorry you got caught.

Come on. Might sympathise a little with stealing milk. Although there are routes you can go down to get this anyway without resorting to theft. But to admit that you would have no guilt about stealing moisturiser?? Something that isn't a matter of life and death? That is pretty poor morally, and indicates that anything on your wish list to steal is justifiable.

Wineandcupcakes · 10/09/2024 12:15

RoyallyEFFEDOFF · 10/09/2024 12:13

Looking at the criteria for DHP’s I don’t even think the OP would be entitled to one given her current circumstances
All of ours are only issued in the event of HB reductions, moving costs, reduction in HB for HA tenants and the bedroom tax and shortfalls to prevent homelessness. I don’t think you can get one anymore simply for not being able to afford your rent. What a shambles housing has become

If the o0 had a one bed home she would have it paid for. If she’s back to work next year she will be able to afford a two bed before the kid needs their oqn room. She is choosing to spend her money on a spare room.

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 12:15

Mrsttcno1 · 10/09/2024 12:11

I do volunteer at 2 of our local foodbanks regularly and would absolutely eat any of the food we hand out there.

And also, as an aside, “Cheap tins of food” is still food, and when you are hungry anything is better than nothing. Again, nobody is saying food banks are amazing and the best place to find high quality meals, but they DO provide a safety net of food and when you truly have no money to feed yourself or your kids you couldn’t give a flying fuck if it’s Heinz beans or Aldi beans- they will both serve as a hot meal for your children.

Cheap tins of beans that are a year out of date.

From the food standard agency's website:

"Use-by dates are about safety
A use-by date on food is about safety. This is the most important date to remember. Never eat food after the use-by date, even if it looks and smells ok, as it could make you very ill."

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 12:18

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 10/09/2024 12:06

Nobody is punishing anyone, merely pointing out that on a low income you have to budget, you have to be frugal, and yes you might have to go without your moisturiser every now and then!

It means you might have to go without food and heating. Not now and then. Frequently.

Look at your essential outgoings this month. Could you afford them if you didn't have enough money coming in to cover them?

It seems pretty obvious to me that the answer is no.

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 10/09/2024 12:18

Yesitsme22 · 10/09/2024 12:12

I don't think it is. not with how much things costs now but that's just my thoughts does not mean I'm right though.

It depends on what you are used to, but it's entirely possible (with budgeting and being quite frugal) to manage on that and not resort to theft.

Yesitsme22 · 10/09/2024 12:18

RoyallyEFFEDOFF · 10/09/2024 12:13

Looking at the criteria for DHP’s I don’t even think the OP would be entitled to one given her current circumstances
All of ours are only issued in the event of HB reductions, moving costs, reduction in HB for HA tenants and the bedroom tax and shortfalls to prevent homelessness. I don’t think you can get one anymore simply for not being able to afford your rent. What a shambles housing has become

https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/benefits/discretionary_housing_payments_dhp#:~:text=You%20might%20get%20a%20DHP,local%20housing%20allowance%20(LHA)%20rates

According to shelter you can . My council allows it

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Discretionary housing payments (DHP) - Shelter England

A council could help with a discretionary housing payment (DHP) if you need rent or deposit help, and get housing benefit or universal credit housing costs.

https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/benefits/discretionary_housing_payments_dhp#:~:text=You%20might%20get%20a%20DHP,local%20housing%20allowance%20(LHA)%20rates

Wineandcupcakes · 10/09/2024 12:18

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 12:15

Cheap tins of beans that are a year out of date.

From the food standard agency's website:

"Use-by dates are about safety
A use-by date on food is about safety. This is the most important date to remember. Never eat food after the use-by date, even if it looks and smells ok, as it could make you very ill."

Then you should tell the staff as that’s not the norm,

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 10/09/2024 12:19

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 12:18

It means you might have to go without food and heating. Not now and then. Frequently.

Look at your essential outgoings this month. Could you afford them if you didn't have enough money coming in to cover them?

It seems pretty obvious to me that the answer is no.

If you don't budget it might mean you go without these things.
I budget for what we have coming in, not what I think I want.
I think folk are forgetting the concept of budgeting and being frugal nowadays tbh.

Differentstarts · 10/09/2024 12:20

@NasiDagang Have you. Food bank food is fine I have used them in the past and iv also donated to them they have them in supermarkets so it's only stuff being sold in supermarkets. I'm poor anyway so I do buy the cheap tins of food in my regular shop where not all out here living the highlife on heinz and kellogs welcome to the real world

Wineandcupcakes · 10/09/2024 12:20

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 12:18

It means you might have to go without food and heating. Not now and then. Frequently.

Look at your essential outgoings this month. Could you afford them if you didn't have enough money coming in to cover them?

It seems pretty obvious to me that the answer is no.

So if that’s the case would you not chose a one bed home which your rent is fully paid for, knowing you can move again before the kid needs their own room, rather than spunk 250 a month on a spare room? I would.

RoyallyEFFEDOFF · 10/09/2024 12:20

Ah that’s good! I wonder if it’s just at the councils discretion. Glad they’ve not done away with it completely!

Mrsttcno1 · 10/09/2024 12:22

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 12:15

Cheap tins of beans that are a year out of date.

From the food standard agency's website:

"Use-by dates are about safety
A use-by date on food is about safety. This is the most important date to remember. Never eat food after the use-by date, even if it looks and smells ok, as it could make you very ill."

Good job food banks aren’t giving out tins of food a year out of date. As I say, I volunteer in 2 and ALL stock is checked and rotated weekly. Never ever is out of date food given out, we do not accept out of date food donations, and we check the date on every item and sort so that it all goes out before it expires. Anything that slips through the net and is donated out of date goes straight in the bin. Every item has date checked before being given to anybody :)

But please, tell me again how awful food banks are for putting food on the same for families and kids who would otherwise go starving because they’re sending out Aldi beans instead of Heinz x

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 12:22

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 10/09/2024 12:19

If you don't budget it might mean you go without these things.
I budget for what we have coming in, not what I think I want.
I think folk are forgetting the concept of budgeting and being frugal nowadays tbh.

Are they? Or have things become a lot more expensive than they used to be?

It's easy to insist that people on benefits must be being needlessly profligate, but most of them know a lot about being frugal. Like that they need to skip meals and keep the heating off.

Knock knock - it's reality calling.

ns87 · 10/09/2024 12:23

Surely the father should be paying out more, and not just getting away with it because he works cash in hand.

RoyallyEFFEDOFF · 10/09/2024 12:23

There’s no guarantee that in a 1 bed your rent is covered. Round here our 1 beds are only around £150-£180 cheaper than a 2 bed. UC will only pay the LHA regardless of how many bedrooms you’ve got.

Yesitsme22 · 10/09/2024 12:24

Wineandcupcakes · 10/09/2024 12:15

If the o0 had a one bed home she would have it paid for. If she’s back to work next year she will be able to afford a two bed before the kid needs their oqn room. She is choosing to spend her money on a spare room.

Where is op getting the first months rent and deposit for this 1 bed property? Also op is on UC it's almost impossible to get a private rent when in UC.

rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou · 10/09/2024 12:25

PaillettenBedeckt · 10/09/2024 12:22

Are they? Or have things become a lot more expensive than they used to be?

It's easy to insist that people on benefits must be being needlessly profligate, but most of them know a lot about being frugal. Like that they need to skip meals and keep the heating off.

Knock knock - it's reality calling.

I am well aware of reality thanks, no need for your little jibe.
With prices increasing then there is even more need to budget and be frugal.
I am well aware of what poverty feels like and also what it feels like to be struggling on a day to day basis, so please don't assume to lecture me.
We're not all sitting in every towers lecturing down.

Differentstarts · 10/09/2024 12:30

They really need to start teaching in school basic lifeskills. Budgeting, finance, cooking on a budget, sewing, diy, first aid, common sense it would really help a lot of people as parents seem to be really dropping the ball on this stuff and nobody seems to know how to manage anymore.

Kelly51 · 10/09/2024 12:32

Surely the father should be paying out more, and not just getting away with it because he works cash in hand.
why do people always keep trotting this out? you cannot get £ out of someone like this through CMS, OP cannot force him to pay her. I honestly wonder how people are so naive.

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