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Lizz Truss potentially reneging on promise to increase benefits in line with inflation

44 replies

Danikm151 · 04/10/2022 08:54

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-63114183

she’s said that she can keep the promise on pensions because they can’t increase their income but those on benefits can by going into work!
She has forgotten about those that claim benefits but are already in work. Those unable to work due to disabilities or caring for those with disabilities.

Baring in mind an increase in line with inflation would only amount to around £30 a month.

I have no hope in this government.
Anyone else?

OP posts:
flapjackfairy · 04/10/2022 08:58

I dont think there is any possible about it tbh
it's already a done deal.

flapjackfairy · 04/10/2022 08:59

I despair of it all. sooner Tories are out the better

OperaStation · 04/10/2022 09:08

To play devils advocate, most working people aren’t getting pay rises in line with inflation.

Benefits will rise in line with workers pay increases.

sevenbyseven · 04/10/2022 09:12

OperaStation · 04/10/2022 09:08

To play devils advocate, most working people aren’t getting pay rises in line with inflation.

Benefits will rise in line with workers pay increases.

^^This.

No one's pay or benefits will increase in line with inflation.

Threadkillacilla · 04/10/2022 09:13

She hasn't forgotten anything she knows full well that disabled and carer households will be disproportionately hit.
She just doesn't care about those people, they don't vote tory.
She and they know exactly what they are doing the only question is how many of the electorate still believe the work harder mantra.

ThreeFeetTall · 04/10/2022 09:20

This was the plan all along. Oh oops, now we have to cut benefits to make up for all our borrowing to cut taxes.

Babyroobs · 04/10/2022 09:26

The cost of it all must be eye watering. They are already giving over £1k to people on means tested benefits with cost of living payments. My elderly dad is getting over 1k in benefits he doesn't need , his bills haven't even increased as he's on a fixed rate. People on Universal can be earning a pretty decent income and still have qualified for an extra 1k in cost of living payments. People on tax credits got the £650 help yet there is no limit to the amount of savings you can get and still claim tax credits as it's based on earnings.

sashagabadon · 04/10/2022 09:28

I think benefits uplift should be similar to workers. It would be unfair to raise more than average worker.
many workers are getting 3-5 % and benefits should be in line with this.

Danikm151 · 04/10/2022 10:15

sashagabadon · 04/10/2022 09:28

I think benefits uplift should be similar to workers. It would be unfair to raise more than average worker.
many workers are getting 3-5 % and benefits should be in line with this.

3% on a £30k salary would be £900 in a year
3% on UC income of £334 per month would be £120 in a year. How is that going to help towards bills?

OP posts:
tryingmybest13 · 04/10/2022 10:26

I despair. They need go and go now

Youcancallmeirrelevant · 04/10/2022 10:29

OperaStation · 04/10/2022 09:08

To play devils advocate, most working people aren’t getting pay rises in line with inflation.

Benefits will rise in line with workers pay increases.

Agree with this!

CeeJay81 · 04/10/2022 10:32

There are plenty of people who receive in work benefits too. It's not just the unemployed who receive universal credit. I work 35 hours a week but receive tax credits. It shouldn't be workers v people on benefits. Everyone should have enough to live on and not have to choose between heating and rating.

CeeJay81 · 04/10/2022 10:33

*eating

Fiddledeedeeee · 04/10/2022 12:02

Have a look at her voting record on welfare and benefits.

www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24941/elizabeth_truss/south_west_norfolk/votes

OhShutIt · 04/10/2022 12:04

Those in work but claiming benefits are clearly the most vulnerable of low income workers so not sure the comparison between them and those not eligible is a fair one.

And I say this as someone with a good income.

OhShutIt · 04/10/2022 12:05

And yes, this was never going to be a priority for this cabinet.

cosmiccosmos · 04/10/2022 12:11

They have a massive problem here though because people on benefits received support during covid and have continued to receive additional support. People who work, whether they receive benefits or not, are not getting pay rises in line with inflation.

This will absolutely blow up either way.

People who are working and receiving no benefits have seen their costs rise hugely esp mortgages.

Something need to change drastically because we cannot continue to have people on benefits 'earning' more or close to those who are working ft.

Btw to be clear, i am not talking about people who are disabled or carers because they can't work.

OperaStation · 04/10/2022 13:37

cosmiccosmos · 04/10/2022 12:11

They have a massive problem here though because people on benefits received support during covid and have continued to receive additional support. People who work, whether they receive benefits or not, are not getting pay rises in line with inflation.

This will absolutely blow up either way.

People who are working and receiving no benefits have seen their costs rise hugely esp mortgages.

Something need to change drastically because we cannot continue to have people on benefits 'earning' more or close to those who are working ft.

Btw to be clear, i am not talking about people who are disabled or carers because they can't work.

I agree with this.

As a public sector worker I’ve received one 1.5% pay rise in the last 4 years. No one is running to my aid. It seems very unfair that someone on benefits should get a rise in line with inflation if public sector workers are effectively getting paid less year on year.

Faciadipasta · 04/10/2022 14:27

But pensions are getting a raise because of the triple lock. Plenty (although obviously not all) of pensioners don't need the money, so your argument applies to them too surely?

ifonly4 · 04/10/2022 15:09

The Conservatives have always said it should be more beneficial to be in work, so particularly for those on a low income (I guess a fair proportion of which won't be getting pay rises, or below inflation), it's just not on giving them the extra. Feeling more and more like it's everyone for themselves here.

Babyroobs · 04/10/2022 15:13

cosmiccosmos · 04/10/2022 12:11

They have a massive problem here though because people on benefits received support during covid and have continued to receive additional support. People who work, whether they receive benefits or not, are not getting pay rises in line with inflation.

This will absolutely blow up either way.

People who are working and receiving no benefits have seen their costs rise hugely esp mortgages.

Something need to change drastically because we cannot continue to have people on benefits 'earning' more or close to those who are working ft.

Btw to be clear, i am not talking about people who are disabled or carers because they can't work.

It's also not long ago that there were increases in the Uc work allowances and the taper rate was reduced making people on benefits significantly better off. Universal credit for people who are not working is absolutely dire and I don't know how people survive on it but for people who work and benefit from the work allowance (so those with children or limited capability for work), it really is not bad at all, although I appreciate people are struggling currently. I guess those on UC with mortgages are going to be struggling as there is no specific help with mortgages although they do get a higher work allowance. The government also will have to look at local housing allowances soon I feel as it's a huge problem when rent element doesn't anywhere near cover private rent and there is such a disparity between those in social housing and those having to private rent..

Babyroobs · 04/10/2022 15:20

Faciadipasta · 04/10/2022 14:27

But pensions are getting a raise because of the triple lock. Plenty (although obviously not all) of pensioners don't need the money, so your argument applies to them too surely?

I work for a charity that helps older people claim benefits and to be honest get quite shocked by what some older people tell me. I do understand that they have saved all their lives but I had an elderly man last week living in a lovely big house tell me 3 times he was in fuel poverty and could not afford car park charges to visit his local hospital. I felt so bad for him so did a benefit check only to find out her had over 100k in the bank yet perceived himself to be in fuel poverty and hard up !. This is a recurring theme ! Although to be honest we do also get some who are really struggling and too proud to seek help. A lot of pensioners are sitting on a lot of money, they are getting a lot of help this winter from increased winter fuel payments. I also think generally the pension age top up benefits ( pension credit ) etc are a lot more generous for pensioners and disability benefits a lot more easy to get than for working age people. I prepare to be flamed but this is what I hear day in day out !

Sadless · 04/10/2022 15:39

I am on benefits and struggling it's not going to get any easier anytime soon. I claim carers allowance for my child and that used to pay £80 each on gas and electricity and a few credit cards every month. Now my electricity is £160 on its own and I haven't put any gas on for months on prepayment meters. I can't say

cptartapp · 04/10/2022 15:42

I hear this too ^.
So many older people in receipt of non means tested benefits they don't need, and don't/won't spend.
The winter fuel allowance should be scrapped, means tested and given out across all ages based on need, simply not on basis of age.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 04/10/2022 15:50

Glad to see that because of a disability plenty of PP's don't think I should have any quality of life at all, thanks for that dickheads

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