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The “how much does this cost to run” thread?

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AtomicBlondeRose · 23/08/2022 20:51

Based on posts about people thinking of using candles instead of electric lights - which is both dangerous and not likely to save any money, I’d like to set this thread up as a place where people can ask how much items in their house cost to run, to let posters make informed decisions about whether or not to keep using them after energy price rises.

If you want to ask, useful information to have is: the energy usage of the item - eg a heater might say on it that it’s 1000w. If you don’t know that the name/model number as accurately as possible. Also to give you a useful estimate it would be good to know your current gas/electricity price tariff price per unit. However it’s easy enough to work out at current and predicted price cap levels.

I can’t promise to answer everything so please can I call upon other numerate MNers to help out? I think this could be a real lifesaver.

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cakeorwine · 28/08/2022 10:23

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/08/2022 22:31

What I was do you have @cakeorwine

and do you just plug into device

many suggest smart plugs To turn stuff off but would like to know what fish tank costs to run for example with pump heater in 24/7 and light 12/24

I've had mine for years.

You just plug it into a socket and then plug the device into it. Fish tank heaters and water pumps - basically you are needing to keep 50 - 100 kg of water at about 21 celsius. That can use a lot of energy as it's constantly needing to be at that temperature

hedgehoglurker · 28/08/2022 10:55

I got a Tapo smart plug that monitors energy via the app.

WandaWomblesaurus · 28/08/2022 10:57

How much do slow cookers cost to run vs air fryer, microwave etc?

hedgehoglurker · 28/08/2022 11:05

iwishiwasafish · 28/08/2022 10:19

I think they must vary. I just checked our A++ energy rated heat pump tumble drier (AEG lavatherm 8000) and it’s 1.99 kWh to dry a full load of cottons. So just over £1 at October rates.

It’s much better than I thought (I would have guessed £3-4, but I forgot it was a heat pump 😳) but significantly worse than @hedgehoglurker ’s 0.6kWh.

It also goes to show how important it is to check! I was all set to buy the dehumidifier mentioned earlier, but at a saving of only 25p per load, and roughly 4 loads per week, it would take over 3 years to pay for itself.

A further benefit of the heat pump drier is that it generates a small amount of heat into the house, so that probably offsets any saving elsewhere.

I think that shows why my heat pump dryer is a lot more efficient, as it doesn't really lose heat into the room so uses far less energy.

However, my Ecoair dehumidifier does warm up the room, especially when on laundry mode.

FayeGovan · 28/08/2022 11:20

Im still confused. Im trying to work out how much my tumble drier uses and if i can afford it. It says inline it uses 560.6 Kwh annual energy consumption. My other appliance is 218w. Im so confused

iwishiwasafish · 28/08/2022 11:25

@hedgehoglurker could you share which tumble drier you have? I can’t find any that state that they use much less than 2kWh for a full load. I’m just thinking that knowing the specifics could really help someone who is looking to buy one.

PriamFarrl · 28/08/2022 11:38

My tumble dryer is this one: ao.com/product/wth85222gb-bosch-serie-4-heat-pump-tumble-dryer-white-84548-126.aspx

It took me a while to get used to it. My last one was a case of put the stuff in and guess how long it needed. With this one there are different setting for different things. It knows when stuff is dry so it stops when it’s done. If I put in a set of sheets and run it at cottons eco then it will say on the timer it’ll take 4 hours but it’s usually done in two.

Powaqa · 28/08/2022 11:39

I was trying to work out showers and found this via moneymaker.com. there are 6 people in my house. All showering everyday (3 bathrooms) IVe bought shower timers to try to limit the 29 min showers my family were taking

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whereamu · 28/08/2022 11:44

Thanks for this thread.
I'm confused too by my tumble dryer that says 473kwh/annum and a load takes 110min/cycle.
Can anyone help?

iwishiwasafish · 28/08/2022 11:45

Powaqa · 28/08/2022 11:39

I was trying to work out showers and found this via moneymaker.com. there are 6 people in my house. All showering everyday (3 bathrooms) IVe bought shower timers to try to limit the 29 min showers my family were taking

Doesn’t it depend on how hot they have the shower though? DS1 can easily be in the shower for 20-30 minutes, but he has cold showers. I take about 5 minutes but have the shower hot, so suspect I take more energy than him.

The shower runs off the combo boiler which is relatively new and has a good energy rating.

whereamu · 28/08/2022 11:49

whereamu · 28/08/2022 11:44

Thanks for this thread.
I'm confused too by my tumble dryer that says 473kwh/annum and a load takes 110min/cycle.
Can anyone help?

Ah think I just found some more info. 2600 watts.
Why does the info have to be so confusing?

iwishiwasafish · 28/08/2022 11:50

whereamu · 28/08/2022 11:44

Thanks for this thread.
I'm confused too by my tumble dryer that says 473kwh/annum and a load takes 110min/cycle.
Can anyone help?

It should give a figure for a “standard load” e.g. 4kWh, or the power usage e.g. 2kW.
If not then it will be based on something like 3 times per week for a year (which would make it 3.03 kWh per cycle, or 1.65kW).

iwishiwasafish · 28/08/2022 11:53

whereamu · 28/08/2022 11:49

Ah think I just found some more info. 2600 watts.
Why does the info have to be so confusing?

Do the annual figure they give us based on 2 loads per week for a year. Which just goes to show how difficult it is to compare, because mine is based on 3 per week!

iwishiwasafish · 28/08/2022 11:53

(Excuse typos!)

hedgehoglurker · 28/08/2022 11:54

iwishiwasafish · 28/08/2022 11:25

@hedgehoglurker could you share which tumble drier you have? I can’t find any that state that they use much less than 2kWh for a full load. I’m just thinking that knowing the specifics could really help someone who is looking to buy one.

It's this one, a 9kg Samsung rated A+++ www.samsung.com/uk/washers-and-dryers/dryers/9kg-white-dv90t8240sh-s1/. It is quite expensive though (about £800), as it is the WiFi version. It is the SmartThings app that it connects to that monitors the energy, as I don't have a smart meter.

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HairyKitty · 28/08/2022 11:58

FayeGovan · 28/08/2022 11:20

Im still confused. Im trying to work out how much my tumble drier uses and if i can afford it. It says inline it uses 560.6 Kwh annual energy consumption. My other appliance is 218w. Im so confused

Those annual online figures are pretty useless as the cost to you will depend on how many hours you run yours and for how many days a week. I you know the kwh rating of the drier you are looking at for the temperature cycle you use, then tell us how many hours per week or year you will be using it?

FayeGovan · 28/08/2022 12:32

Its an Indesit I2D81WUK 8Kg Condenser Tumble Dryer - White - B Rated . Bought cos it was the cheapest i could find. Now im scared to use it and am considering either a dehumidifier or a heated airer though space is tight and money more so. I wash almost every day and live in the damp and wet west of Scotland. I used to put stuff over radiators etc but now dont think they will be on much.

FayeGovan · 28/08/2022 12:35

I would love to know how much it costs to run for about 30 minutes. I wouldn't use more. But all i can find online is the annual energy consumption 560.6 Kwh figure and it makes no sense.

Cynderella · 28/08/2022 12:39

FayeGovan · 28/08/2022 12:32

Its an Indesit I2D81WUK 8Kg Condenser Tumble Dryer - White - B Rated . Bought cos it was the cheapest i could find. Now im scared to use it and am considering either a dehumidifier or a heated airer though space is tight and money more so. I wash almost every day and live in the damp and wet west of Scotland. I used to put stuff over radiators etc but now dont think they will be on much.

whirlpool-cdn.thron.com/static/5WACOE_19516185500_EN_RKKGMU.pdf?xseo=&response-content-disposition=inline%3Bfilename%3D%22doc.pdf%22

I think this is your manual - there is a guide to how many kwh different settings use.

FayeGovan · 28/08/2022 12:55

Thanks, it says high heat cotton uses 2.57 kwh, does that mean from oct it'll cost 2.57 x .56p is only £1.44 an hour to run? Seems quite cheap really. I was thinking of an airer or dehumidifier but not sure if its worth the outlay.
Unless im all wrong which is very possible

AtomicBlondeRose · 28/08/2022 13:29

Thats the price per cycle not per hour. However that’s for 4kg so half a load. For a full 8kg load it’s 4.75kwh so £2.47.

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AtomicBlondeRose · 28/08/2022 13:31

The shower ratings listed above is a good table but only for electric showers. A combi boiler or gas boiler with a hot water tank would cost less - this is where I fall down though as I just can’t find any good information about how much hot water actually costs to heat using a boiler.

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FayeGovan · 28/08/2022 13:42

yoshiblue · 26/08/2022 10:16

Worked out tumble dryer price this week £1.31 per cotton cycle full load. It's a bit rubbish so we often have to boost it for things to be dry!

Just bought a dehumidifier as I plan to line dry everything over winter, either inside or on washing line. 4p per hour to run, so 6 hours is 24p.

These are prices pre price cap change, but gives you an idea of the difference!

I've worked out dehumidify will pay for itself in one winter, but has a 5 year warranty so I expect to get many years use out of it.

Can you explain how you worked out this costs 4p an hour to run at the present time?

FayeGovan · 28/08/2022 13:46

Thanks @AtomicBlondeRose, but how did you work that out, also how do you know how long a cycle lasts? Am trying to avoid shelling out for an airer or dehumidifier but seeing the costs here makes me think i cant avoid having to get one, although we haven't really space.

Crikeyblimey · 28/08/2022 14:04

My heat pump dryer info says 2.18kWh per full load. The ‘normal’ mixed load starts up at 2hr 45 (but invariably finishes before that).
does this mean it’s 2.18kwh over those 2+ hours or ‘per hour’ do you think?
if the former then that’s £1.22 per load. Not as bad as I thought. I’ll still avoid if I can but…

My washing machine is linked to an app that tells me the cost. Average full load of mixed fabrics is approx 20p (at todays prices).