To Think People Have No Idea How Covid Messaging Has Changed

[Sunshineguy]

The CDC, HHS, and WHO are warning that Covid infections can get progressively worse and that the risk of Long Covid increases with each reinfection. Are people aware of this change in messaging?

Well they will take a lot longer off work if they have long covid! @SwingTheMonkey

@SwingTheMonkey I didn't. And now I can't walk to the end of the street.

I don't think it's worth being aggressive with me. I'm just telling you all what I wish I knew at the time. Had I rested more, I may not have got this. You don't have to take my advice, it is what the Long Covid specialist told me. Too many of us rush back when we aren't better, not without good reason mind you.

I wasn’t aggressive in the slightest.

I appreciate you’ve not recovered from having Covid but is there no small part of you that thinks suggesting a week off work for a mild illness isn’t slightly ridiculous? How many employers would happily accept that? If there’s a choice between going back to work to pay one’s bills and staying at home for some r&r ‘just in case’ and risk getting sacked - how many do you think would choose the latter?

I caught it Dec 2022 after listening to people stupidly. I was getting a lot of pressure to go for the family Christmas meal
I went, and caught covid. 3 weeks off work, lost all my work commission, ended up on the virtual covid ward and went from doing 90 min spin classes to being able to do 10 mins
That was after 6 vaccines, i have had 8 now

It took ages to get my fitness back. Once I saw I had a positive test, I kind of went right not risking long covid, getting on the sofa and staying there! that's what my consultant said to do

just don't want it again as horrible being unwell, losing money and risk of long covid

The reason the narrative has changed is because governments are tallying up the impact on the economy. The reduced quality of life, increased medical spend on these patients, reduced earnings over their lifetime. One Harvard medical report estimated that the economic cost of Long Covid will be the equivalent of 17% of US's GDP.

This virus affects people in ways they still don't understand. They now think it impacts women disproportionately because of something to do with oestrogen levels.

I don't think it's ridiculous to suggest people recover properly from a virus that has the ability to stop you working for the rest of your life, no. As I said, i was fit and healthy, like you obviously are and I've been floored by it. They don't know why this happens.

I know my partner's work has now insisted that people don't return to the office until they are fully well after one of their senior people has had to quit due to Long Covid. I fully appreciate that many 'can't' take a week off work. I couldn't at the time but had i known now what I did then, I wish I had done!

I think long COVID is like god. Only real if you believe in it 😂

I would imagine it’s aimed at the older or vulnerable members of the population who are entitled to a vaccine and the take up is dropping. These people are still vulnerable.

Agreed 💯

yea, cos that achieves what !!

That image is American, so knowing what their healthcare system is like =$$$$

no, they don't have to add up to 100%, you are trying to make totally the wrong numbers add up to 100%

The 6 vaccines worked then?

American here - we don’t have to pay for Covid vaccines. Most vaccines are covered by insurance, and if you don’t have insurance or are undocumented there are government programs covering the Covid vaccine (and often other vaccines but that varies by state).

American here - we don’t pay for Covid vaccines. We just have a lot of antivax weirdos here so they have to keep reminding people that vaccines are good, actually 🙃

They aren't produced or distributed for free, someone is paying for them.

Are you serious?!

Do you realise how deeply insulting your statement is and also completely untrue!

Multiple research studies have shown cellular changes, microclots and mitochondrial differences in people with long covid. It's been linked to triggering a number of conditions including POTS, MCAS, ME etc.
For severe patients organ damage and diabetes.

It took me 4 months to be able to walk more then 100m......at 34. The week before I caught covid I was paddleboarsing 6 miles twice a week and hill walking with a toddler in a backpack!

I'm not at all scared. I'm vaccinated. I can't avoid mixing with people. So there is very little point in worrying about something I can't do anything about.

Yes, the government and/or insurance companies. I didn’t think I’d need to clarify that. The manufacturers might be making some money, but the government reimbursement rate is $40 for providers so I don’t think anyone is getting rich off that.

This question.

Yes they do rush back to work, in fact, people are actively encouraged to carry on working by the 'it's no worse than a cold' crowd.

I'm so sorry to hear about your long covid, it must be really hard to come to terms with.

I've read stats that the more times children get covid, the higher their risk of long covid - I guess that goes for everyone? Who knows.
People keep saying ' research it yourself - google the internet' - but with so much conflicting information it's impossible to.

I do know this though - 1.8 million people in the UK had long covid as of stats March '23. Of those, 60,000 are children aged 0-16.
ONS:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/alldatarelatingtoprevalenceofongoingsymptomsfollowingcoronaviruscovid19infectionintheuk#nav-primary

I know children who have had, and still have, long covid, I know a 15 year old boy who lost the use of his legs with covid 2 years ago and never gained reuse of them - wheelchair bound and just given an A4 piece of paper by the NHS of physio exercises, that is the extent of the help he has got.

Then you have a hundred people all around you, at work, at home, in extended family, neighbours, saying, 'don't bother testing, go to work, don't give your kids time off school, covids no big deal, it's just a cold, why are you testing?'.

It's all just bloody ludicrous.

Research the internet my arse.
We are being fed word salad on covid from every angle.

No one will tell us the whole story - because no-one actually knows. Or they want to preserve the world economy which, in effect, equals life and quality of life too. It's a lose-lose situation.

I'm probably wrong - but that's what I think from my little corner of perception anyway and as much reading as I can stomach before it all turns into a big covid haze.

You know, most people are so damn tired. The last few years have really battered them. We wake up to shit news every day and it's getting shitter. Many people are just hanging on.

Call me selfish but it's beyond my mental energy to take responsibility for everyone else's health if it involves lobbying (who exactly?) for deeply unrealistic and expensive air filtration systems in public building. I'm not going to go along a bus opening windows if it means other people yell at me for making them cold. I went to the doc the other day and none of the staff were wearing a mask, so it seemed a bit pointless for me, a well person, to put one on.

I'll stay away from people if I have a contagious illness like I always have.

yep

We also spent a shit load during Covid

There’s not much left

This is how I feel too.

Why do you think that?

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