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Both Parents Hospitalised Not Vaccinated

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HelgaHufflepuff76 · 14/05/2023 22:16

Hi people,

Hoping someone can help.
My parents are both in hospital at the moment with pneumonia. They had coughs for a long time and I convinced them to go to the doctor. The doctor sent them both straight to hospital. They are both mid seventies but are usually very fit and healthy, especially my mum.
The problem is, I'm convinced it happened because they have been brainwashed to be anti vax because of my older brother who still lives at home with them.
They both used to get flu jabs, but since lockdown they've all become anti vax and I know they only got the first Covid jab and they stopped getting flu jabs too.
They told me that my brother was ill at the same time and he tested positive for Covid when he went to the doctor.

I've said to them that they probably had it also and if they'd been vaccinated they might not have been to ill. I said they should get the vaccine, but they deny it's anything to do with it.
I asked the nurse at the hospital and she said she couldn't be sure it was Covid that caused it.

I'm scared this will happen again and I don't know how to convince them take more care.
What would you do?
Thanks

OP posts:
MaybeSmaller · 15/05/2023 18:39

I appreciate why you're worried, but I don't know what you can do exactly. You can start a family argument over it but you may not win this.

Your use of the term "brainwashing" is a bit concerning. Do you believe your parents are capable of making up their own minds and making their own decisions regarding their health? Do they hang off your brother's every word?

Getting a vaccine or not is a personal choice, ultimately, and while it can reduce risk it doesn't eliminate it entirely.

Sirzy · 15/05/2023 18:41

You can’t change their minds, you have told them your view and they disagree. Nothing you can do.

EmmaEmerald · 15/05/2023 18:44

in my circle, we know of at least 6 who were in hospital with pneumonia this year. They're all vaccinated. It's just a bad year for it I think.

2 under 40s in my flats were hospitalised with flu.

interestingly, I've had the pneumonia vaccine but seem to be a rarity in that.

wish them better asap.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 17/05/2023 17:23

Probably is because they aren’t vaccinated, well assuming they’ve had Covid that is. You can’t fix stupid unfortunately. Hope they are on the mend soon.

orangeflags · 17/05/2023 17:46

Maybe, but I was hospitalised with pneumonia last year. Fit healthy and up to date with every covid vaccine. Just one of those things

Badgeringabout · 20/05/2023 09:49

TooOldForThisNonsense · 17/05/2023 17:23

Probably is because they aren’t vaccinated, well assuming they’ve had Covid that is. You can’t fix stupid unfortunately. Hope they are on the mend soon.

You have no evidence for this and congrats on taking that moral high ground and labelling two ill elderly people 'stupid'. FFS.

Terzani · 20/05/2023 11:11

I've said to them that they probably had it also and if they'd been vaccinated they might not have been to ill. I said they should get the vaccine, but they deny it's anything to do with it.

They are right, stop blaming them. Being fit and healthy will help them get better. That one dose of vaccine might be helpful as well, so it's incorrect of you to say they are unvaccinated. But Covid vaccine doesn't stop transmission and doesn't prevent hospitalisation! My dad, 90, twice vaccinated, still caught Covid and had to stay in hospital for 3 weeks. Such useless arguing about vaccination is the last thing they need.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 21/05/2023 12:02

Badgeringabout · 20/05/2023 09:49

You have no evidence for this and congrats on taking that moral high ground and labelling two ill elderly people 'stupid'. FFS.

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The evidence is the drop in death rates from covid. And being elderly doesn’t make someone immune from stupidity. The cold hard truth is if they have Covid, they would have been a lot less likely to have been seriously ill had they been vaccinated.

OP I do hope they are ok.

Biscuitea · 21/05/2023 12:09

But they’ve had a “vaccination” from what you’ve said?

and it’s not covid related anyway?

why not stop calling them brainwashed for a start? Do you think they’re incapable of making their own decisions or something?

statementstate · 21/05/2023 16:17

Oh oh oh... People who are vaccinated AND boosted have been dying all over the world from Covid. There is no difference. They've also had one jab as you said, so they're not unvaccinated.
People get ill... vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. That is all there is to it. I hope they get well soon.

70sTomboy · 21/05/2023 16:40

I know 3 separate, not related, people who were fully vaccinated , all have been in hospital with pneumonia. One fell out with a work colleague who told her it was because she was a sheep 🐑 who fell for the 'covid scam' and was poisoned with 'vaccine'.🙄 People looking for something or someone to blame will fix on something.

mycoffeecup · 21/05/2023 16:59

They're a bit lacking in critical thinking ability. Not much you can do about it. Assume you have protected yourself? hope they are ok.

FirstnameSuesecondnamePerb · 21/05/2023 17:26

My dbil has been in hospital for weeks with pneumonia from covid. He has had every vax and booster going.

TakeMyStrongHand · 21/05/2023 17:39

So you don't know that they had covid but they do now have pneumonia which also has other causes and you think it's worthwhile even mentioning that this is because they weren't vaccinated?

It could have happened either way.

I thought all this vax bullshit, judgement and moral superiority was over.

RemainAtHome · 21/05/2023 18:02

I’m not going to go into the whole ‘is covid vaccination helpful’ or ‘there us just a lot if pneumonia around. You can’t avoid it’ debate.

The bottom line is that your parents are free to chose to do something you think is unsuitable. This time it’s covid but it could be moving to a house unsuitable for them etc…
And yes it could be dangerous fir them to do that.

But you can’t force them and insisting they are wrong, telling them they are stupid (as said by some PP) will just get their back up. Same with telling them they wouldn’t have been in hospital if they had been vaccinated etc….
But you can be there fir them. You can teach them to protect themselves (like an air filter at home so they don’t get stuff from your dbrother or anyone else) etc… You can talk about what you are doing and why etc…. (Expect a backlash from them or your brother though)

SillyOldBear3 · 21/05/2023 18:03

Vaccinated or not, anyone can get pneumonia. You don't even know they had Covid FGS... Hope they get better soon, and time to stop pushing your unhelpful comments on them and respect their own personal medical choices..

NewtonsCradle · 21/05/2023 18:07

You can buy them vitamin d and vitamin k supplements.

GeorgiaGirl52 · 21/05/2023 18:49

Is the pneumonia vaccine not available through NHS? In the US the medical recommendation is a flu vaccine every year, a pneumonia vaccine every five years and a shingles vaccine every 10 years (starting at age 50).
The shingles vaccine will be phased out as there is now a chickenpox vaccine for children so shingles will slowly be extinguished.

RemainAtHome · 21/05/2023 19:50

SillyOldBear3 · 21/05/2023 18:03

Vaccinated or not, anyone can get pneumonia. You don't even know they had Covid FGS... Hope they get better soon, and time to stop pushing your unhelpful comments on them and respect their own personal medical choices..

If their son who is living with them has tested positive, it’s likely that they’ve caught it though.
Its still an airborne virus and contagious.

SunbathingDragon · 21/05/2023 19:59

Despite your views on it, as long as they have the mental capacity to decide, the rightly have the choice between being vaccinated or not.

It is a bad year. All five of us (who are otherwise healthy) were vaccinated against flu and all five of us caught it. Our toddler was hospitalised and I was completely bedbound for over a week and unable to breathe properly for a couple of months afterwards.

I hope your parents are ok but they could very easily be in this situation even if they were vaccinated.

CorsicaDreaming · 22/05/2023 20:58

I am very pro covid vaccines, and have had them all, as have of all my family.

However, I had an illness akin to Covid (although I only tested on day two and four and it came back negative - apparently the latest strain doesn't always show up until DAY6 on testing, by then I stopped testing it as it had turned into pneumonia) which then turned into bacterial pneumonia.

About a month before that, my mother-in-law who is also fully vaccinated caught covid - and that lead on to bacterial pneumonia. She is in her 80s and also ended up hospitalised and on an oxygen mask for about two weeks.

So what I'm saying is I think at the moment it does seem to just be some really virulent, nasty strains of pneumonia around and I have heard of quite a few people getting it. It doesn't seem to matter if you're vaccinated for Covid or not.

Mine took amoxicillin, doxycycline and oral steroids to clear it up. Despite being fully vaxed for covid (which seems to weaken the immune system and the chest, and then the bacterial pneumonia has an easy route to get in, or at least that's what a doctor explained to me).

Museya15 · 23/05/2023 07:30

Lots of people get pneumonia abd transferred to respiratory wards, the people that come to hospital with COVID pneumonia are usually intubated and sent to icu, most not vaccinated but that's their choice, people want to judge but you have to accept a persons decision.

Badgeringabout · 27/05/2023 15:02

I thought all this vax bullshit, judgement and moral superiority was over.

Some people loved taking that moral high ground a little bit too much and cannot let it go.

BungleandGeorge · 27/05/2023 15:06

It’s their decision, if being admitted to hospital hasn’t changed their opinion I’m not sure anything will! It’s only over 75s getting the jab now anyway

LIZS · 27/05/2023 15:40

GeorgiaGirl52 · 21/05/2023 18:49

Is the pneumonia vaccine not available through NHS? In the US the medical recommendation is a flu vaccine every year, a pneumonia vaccine every five years and a shingles vaccine every 10 years (starting at age 50).
The shingles vaccine will be phased out as there is now a chickenpox vaccine for children so shingles will slowly be extinguished.

It is for vulnerable groups, babies and over 65s, and shingles for over 70s.

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