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Push for masks to be reintroduced

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GerardusMercator · 04/01/2023 12:44

Over the last few days I've noticed a big push in media to get masks back on the agenda. A brief foray into twitter and flick through a few Covid threads here, and I've seen all the old pandemic era versions of 'it's no hardship to mask'/ your selfish if you don't want to mask etc start to creep back in.

How many of you are-

  1. Still masking now
  2. Will mask if it becomes guidance
  3. Will mask if it becomes law
  4. Will not mask again under any circumstances

I really struggled with masks and don't believe they make a great deal of difference (covid theatre) so would be somewhere between a 3 and 4.

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AutumnCrow · 04/01/2023 16:21

If there is new guidance on mask wearing, i.e. that it is advisable, then maybe just maybe there could be a strong statement that it is unacceptable to insult people for either wearing or not wearing one.

Roselilly36 · 04/01/2023 16:23

4

Trinity65 · 04/01/2023 16:32

RitaMaurit · 04/01/2023 13:44

If someone's really ill, ideally they should stay at home! Which is what most people used to instinctively do before Covid.
Now they just sling on a mask and go about in crowded places, and lean over immuno compromised people in the supermarket spreading their germs around. Masks don't reduce spread!

And don't get me started on the effect on the environment. Or on children's development.

Had enough of this shite.

I hear You.
Fed up of it all as well

SirMingeALot · 04/01/2023 16:46

AngelinaFibres · 04/01/2023 16:07

Instead of appealing to everyone to wear a mask to protect others they should have said that wearing a mask would save the wearer from death by covid. I suspect that the vast majority of people who decided they were exempt would have made more effort to wear one. The only people not wearing them would have been those for whom the mask is significantly worse than the risk of covid.

I suspect even the Tories wouldn't have been stupid enough to try that one after they initially told the public masks don't work.

But given the deliberate policy to try and increase fear so people would be scared into adherence, it's an interesting thought experiment to consider whether they might have done it if they hadn't said anything about masks initially.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 04/01/2023 16:49

Tinysoxxx · 04/01/2023 15:15

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Its a no-brainer when you live with a medically vulnerable person.

If you get upset about wearing a mask, you’re really not going cope with all the pain/hassle/stress/fear of being medically vulnerable.

I'm medically vulnerable and I won't be made to wear a mask again.

Bubblesdublin · 04/01/2023 17:01

I will gladly wear a mask.

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GerardusMercator · 04/01/2023 17:05

SockGoddess · 04/01/2023 15:52

I can't understand the anti-mask thing either. If you don't want to wear one/don't think you should be told to wear one, that's one thing - but why be horrible to someone who wants to wear one?

Years ago I used to wear a filtering mask for cycling in London - yes it's uncomfortable, but comes with certain positives and that's a choice I'm free to make. A mask will reduce the likelihood of catching, or spreading, an airborne disease, maybe not by much (depending on the type of mask and the situation) but still my choice to make. Even if you think I'm mistaken about that, STILL my choice to make.

I don't think most people who don't mask care what other people do- I know I don't. I simply do not want to be compelled by law to wear a mask ever again.

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GerardusMercator · 04/01/2023 17:10

NewspaperTaxis · 04/01/2023 16:13

My previous post about you was deleted @MrsDanversGlidesAgain - you can probably guess why.

I just can't understand why you should be furious that I choose to wear a face mask to protect the elderly in my family. I'm not telling you what to do - you wouldn't do it anyway. And I don't have any powers of law enforcement over you.

What do you mean, 'three years'? None of us have had to wear face masks legally this year have we?

But it's obviously a really touchy subject for you.

Looks like you've had a nerve or two touched here too Grin

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Tinysoxxx · 04/01/2023 17:18

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 04/01/2023 16:49

I'm medically vulnerable and I won't be made to wear a mask again.

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What about if the medically vulnerable person was your daughter and a virus caused her brain damage? And she was in the queue for an operation in the very near future to help her? Would it be worth the inconvenience then?

Tinysoxxx · 04/01/2023 17:20

Tinysoxxx · 04/01/2023 17:18

What about if the medically vulnerable person was your daughter and a virus caused her brain damage? And she was in the queue for an operation in the very near future to help her? Would it be worth the inconvenience then?

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Btw that wasn’t a personal attack - it’s just to point out that the reason we wear masks. Medically vulnerable covers lots of different categories.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 04/01/2023 17:23

Looks like you've had a nerve or two touched here too

Did chortle a bit at that poster's go at amateur psychiatry.

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GerardusMercator · 04/01/2023 17:27

@Tinysoxxx - do you believe masks should be legally mandated again?

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JudithHarper · 04/01/2023 17:27

I have never worn a mask, had a covid test or taken the magic medicine. I never will either. Wearing a mask is akin to wearing a quartz crystal or clown shoes. I would wager that all the 1's and 2's would baulk at volunteering to be a lab assistant where they were handling Ebola or Marberg (you know, proper dangerous viruses) if they were just handed a blue surgical mask.

throwaway2023 · 04/01/2023 17:45
  1. For me, I don't care what others do
Was wearing an FFP2 mask, never had covid. Socialised Christmas Day without one as everyone was saying it was just a cold and I was being too cautious, just a couple of people for 2hrs...

Now have covid, anti virals and under the covid oximetry team and signed off work. Don't want this again

AutumnCrow · 04/01/2023 17:47

What I'd like most is for the 'lockdown rudeness' which developed like a social virus from 2020 to disappear and a bit of old-fashioned tolerance to re-emerge.

Believeitornot · 04/01/2023 17:51

Anyone who claims that masks don’t work are either being disingenuous or ignorant.

Yes they work and yes there is a trade off but it’s a temporary measure to reduce rates of illness and stop the NHS breaking

this is why we had public health measures at the start of covid - to stop the very thing that is happening now, because our government knew the NHS didn’t have any capacity to cope because of the problems with beds, vacancies and social care.

Unless they fix those problem then we need masks and ventilation to reduce infections. And then we need them to fix social care, massive vacancies, crumbling hospitals etc.

Make it voluntary, and remind people of the important of why they are needed. You’ll always get people who will rail against it but I think with better public health messaging, then it will help make a difference. Why not try?

Believeitornot · 04/01/2023 17:53

JudithHarper · 04/01/2023 17:27

I have never worn a mask, had a covid test or taken the magic medicine. I never will either. Wearing a mask is akin to wearing a quartz crystal or clown shoes. I would wager that all the 1's and 2's would baulk at volunteering to be a lab assistant where they were handling Ebola or Marberg (you know, proper dangerous viruses) if they were just handed a blue surgical mask.

How is Ebola the same as covid?

Seriously, have a word with yourself. The PH advice about colds and flu is to sneeze into a tissue. Why…. Because it catches the droplets which contain the virus. Which is what a mask helps do, and therefore reduces the amount of virus in the air. The lower the amount of virus in the air, the lower the incident of infection.

Next you’ll be telling me that you’ll happily let someone sneeze in your face with the flu.

TheKeatingFive · 04/01/2023 17:57

Yes they work and yes there is a trade off

Where's the evidence they work?

Believeitornot · 04/01/2023 17:57

Where is the evidence that they don’t?

TheKeatingFive · 04/01/2023 18:00

Where is the evidence that they don’t?

If you're advocating for them, the onus is on you to make their case. So go for it.

Believeitornot · 04/01/2023 18:02

TheKeatingFive · 04/01/2023 17:57

Yes they work and yes there is a trade off

Where's the evidence they work?

I’m not going to do your homework for you.

Masks aren’t foolproof but they help along with other measures and if you think logically about how the virus is transmitted (in water droplets in the air), then you can see how masks would help.

Vaccines don’t stop transmission and are not effective forever - hence the increase in cases - so we need every layer of protection possible.

Im tired of people coming out with bullshit when we have actual experts telling us what to do. I’m assuming people trust medical advice in other regards but why not this?

Believeitornot · 04/01/2023 18:02

Do your own homework. I’m assuming you’re too scared to research it yourself.

Greenlife1 · 04/01/2023 18:03

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Fiji10 · 04/01/2023 18:04

Believeitornot · 04/01/2023 18:02

Do your own homework. I’m assuming you’re too scared to research it yourself.

😂😂😂😂

TheKeatingFive · 04/01/2023 18:04

Do your own homework.

I've done it. I don't see any real world evidence that they work.

If you want to change my mind, provide the data, don't argue like a 12 year old.

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