National acknowledgement of how rubbish the initial phase was

[avocadoandchill]

Is there some kind of national acknowledgement of just how rubbish the pandemic was back in 2020? The deaths, the lockdowns, the effect on mental health. I'm wondering if there's an inquiry or something or a museum. Something that marks what was for many a truly awful tim.

[GreyhairedHobbit]

I’m with @Kikikik on this one. My father died with covid (not from covid, he had cancer and was 86) The incompetent care home staff sent him to hospital. I was not able to see him. I asked to see him in the funeral home but was told no, because he had had covid! So while Bill Gates and co. were milking in the profits, psycologists were encouraged to find new and better ways to control the public and politicians were partying, ordinary people were dying alone in hospital beds.

I do not need a minute’s silence or a concert . I need people to pay for the damage that has been inflicted on this country. Cash has almost gone, liberties have gone and we were lied to. People had visits from the police after having a coffee in their gardens with neighbours or sitting on a park bench. Drones filmed people walking in the countryside and we were encouraged to be shocked and critical. People turned on each other. Lockdowns were shit and we will be living with the consequences for many many years.

[EmmaAgain22]

Grey "I need people to pay for the damage that has been inflicted on this country"

yes.

[Kikikik]

@GreyhairedHobbit

I’m with @Kikikik on this one. My father died with covid (not from covid, he had cancer and was 86) The incompetent care home staff sent him to hospital. I was not able to see him. I asked to see him in the funeral home but was told no, because he had had covid! So while Bill Gates and co. were milking in the profits, psycologists were encouraged to find new and better ways to control the public and politicians were partying, ordinary people were dying alone in hospital beds.

I do not need a minute’s silence or a concert . I need people to pay for the damage that has been inflicted on this country. Cash has almost gone, liberties have gone and we were lied to. People had visits from the police after having a coffee in their gardens with neighbours or sitting on a park bench. Drones filmed people walking in the countryside and we were encouraged to be shocked and critical. People turned on each other. Lockdowns were shit and we will be living with the consequences for many many years.

I'm so sorry to hear about your Dad.

100% agree. People should pay!
I read an article in the Atlantic calling for pandemic amnesty and it's like nope! I want to see heads on the line!

I will not forgive those who didn't stand up for what was right!

[x2boys]

It was a pandemic what exactly where we supposed to do?
Most of the world strugghled to cope with it and contain it ,unless we all locked down 24/7 utill we had treatment and vaccines then it waa going to spread .

[x2boys]

@MichelleScarn

Same, we don't need a concert or a minutes silence or more going over and ruminating on this.
I don't understand why people don't want to move on from this and keep going over it. EVERYONE acknowledges it was shit. It was an unprecedented horrible time. But we need to move on.

Yep totally agree ,it was crap ,,deaths ,lockdown,homeschooling ,itwas all shit ,but we cant let it drag us down forever..

[Elbieo]

Well I fucking hate Charles. The monarchy should be abolished. So if he — a rich thick fucker with all his servants and sweeping grounds, as outlined above —spoke, I’d just feel worse.

[avocadoandchill]

@EmmaAgain22

OP I don't think I'll ever get past lockdowns etc but a concert won't help!

Ok fair enough.

I was just trying to think there hasn't been a national sense of closure on it. Maybe because it's not something people can just get over

[Ivyonafence]

@avocadoandchill have you thought about doing something for yourself to mark it? Would it help you move on?

Like buying yourself a present, or planting a tree or something?

I think the problem with a national event is that it wasn't the same experience for everyone. Some people kept partying, some got richer, some (as below) enjoyed working from home etc. others lost their livelihoods, saw their mental health decline, had loved ones die alone. It wasn't the same event for everyone.

[FourChimneys]

I do not feel the need for any sort of closure but if you do then maybe wait until it is over?

I know two people who are currently quite ill with Covid, one of whom is in hospital.

[PuttingDownRoots]

The Science Museum has added Covid to the Medical displays.

Hindsight is fantastic. So easy to spot the mistakes.

[avocadoandchill]

@FourChimneys

I do not feel the need for any sort of closure but if you do then maybe wait until it is over?

I know two people who are currently quite ill with Covid, one of whom is in hospital.

Yes that is a good point. For some it will never be over. I guess as a long covid sufferer maybe closure isn't the right word. Acknowledgement. That's what I feel is needed.

[avocadoandchill]

@PuttingDownRoots

The Science Museum has added Covid to the Medical displays.

Hindsight is fantastic. So easy to spot the mistakes.

Good idea

[avocadoandchill]

@Ivyonafence

@avocadoandchill have you thought about doing something for yourself to mark it? Would it help you move on?

Like buying yourself a present, or planting a tree or something?

I think the problem with a national event is that it wasn't the same experience for everyone. Some people kept partying, some got richer, some (as below) enjoyed working from home etc. others lost their livelihoods, saw their mental health decline, had loved ones die alone. It wasn't the same event for everyone.

Yes I know some people who have had tattoos. Perhaps you're onto something. A private memorial/marker. Thank you.

[Toddlerteaplease]

In not sure what else we could have done. Countries with better healthcare than us, had bodies piling up in the streets. We had no idea how serious it was going to be. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. It's over now and we need to move on.

[barneshome]

my mental health was not affected by having to work from home

[walkingonsunshinekat]

@avocadoandchill

Yes that is a good point. For some it will never be over. I guess as a long covid sufferer maybe closure isn't the right word. Acknowledgement. That's what I feel is needed.

there is.

nationalcovidmemorialwall.org/

[MichelleScarn]

What type of tattoo would you get to commemorate covid? Am sorry but I don't know how healthy that would be? Your choice of course! Can understand if to commemorate a lost loved one, but for a virus?

[barneshome]

No nation got it all right
Furlough kept thousands of peoples jobs
Loans kept thousand of companies in business
The vaccination programme made the EU look ridiculous and was better than anyone else's other than Israel
Maybe there should be a TV announcement about that as well

[walkingonsunshinekat]

@Toddlerteaplease

In not sure what else we could have done. Countries with better healthcare than us, had bodies piling up in the streets. We had no idea how serious it was going to be. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. It's over now and we need to move on.

Yes the UK was very clever in moving people into Care homes and stopping others from seeking healthcare, so the 200k who died, died mainly out of the glare of publicity.

[avocadoandchill]

@MichelleScarn

What type of tattoo would you get to commemorate covid? Am sorry but I don't know how healthy that would be? Your choice of course! Can understand if to commemorate a lost loved one, but for a virus?

I cannot say what they got as it would be outing. But it wasn't a tattoo of covid virus.

For some of us it left a permanent mark on our lives so I can see why why they did it.

[JanuaryParty]

At least we aren't living in a conspiracy theory cave

[Newusernameaug]

@Kikikik

I'm so sorry to hear about your Dad.

100% agree. People should pay!
I read an article in the Atlantic calling for pandemic amnesty and it's like nope! I want to see heads on the line!

I will not forgive those who didn't stand up for what was right!

Great to see some truth on here - however don’t be surprised if the monitors delete and ban you as mumsnet don’t allow these sort of opinions! 🙄

Its so shockingly obvious now and all it takes is a little digging online but because the ‘news’ isn’t coming from daily fail or the evil BBC people still don’t believe despite huge amounts of evidence 🤷🏽‍♀️

[avocadoandchill]

@walkingonsunshinekat

there is.

nationalcovidmemorialwall.org/

Oh thank you so much! That is perfect. So beautiful.

[barneshome]

@MichelleScarn

What type of tattoo would you get to commemorate covid? Am sorry but I don't know how healthy that would be? Your choice of course! Can understand if to commemorate a lost loved one, but for a virus?

I had a cold last year - I am not going to get a tattoo about it
I do not understand why anyone wants a tattoo at all but they you go

[avocadoandchill]

@barneshome

I had a cold last year - I am not going to get a tattoo about it
I do not understand why anyone wants a tattoo at all but they you go

Did your cold hospitalise you? In which case I'm deeply sorry and am glad you have managed to find a way to move on.