To ask if we’re heading for another lockdown?

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So covid cases are rising and like clockwork, the likes of independent sage are back in the media calling for ‘protections’ like masks, isolation and social distancing to “avoid full lockdown”.

Is it time to reintroduce some measures like the rule of 6, a cap on large events numbers and maybe distancing and early closure for hospitality as independent sage are calling for?

Personally I feel that with vaccines and treatments, we are now in the best position we’re going to get with covid and would be very reluctant to comply with further measures, that themselves cause enormous harm.

I genuinely feel bad for people suffering with long COVID and those more seriously affected. This alone is not sufficient reason to lockdown.

I have noticed I get less colds when mask wearing. As for another lock down doubt it but can't say for sure.
Be terrible for business.

People should wear masks in hospitals, it's very odd to have stopped that, hospitals are full of vulnerable people and are also packed and crowded, cancer clinics, respiratory wards, no idea why masks were stopped there, although I noticed all the nurses and consultants gave them up very quickly so I'm guessing they hate working in them.

Apart from that, public transport possibly. Decent filters in public buildings would help.

Absolutely not locking down again, I don't think the mental health of the nation has properly recovered since the last one.

Independent sage can fuck off.

Well if they do announce a lockdown, and I don't think they will, I won't be sticking to the rules and we absolutely did last time. Like another poster lockdowns have done more damage to my friends and family than covid. I am CEV but didn't isolate and haven't had covid either.

Absolutely not, it was insane the first time. The economy is in turmoil, let's not make it worse.

I have Long Covid and am still not locking down in the future. The worst bit of Long Covid was the isolation and depression, if I don't have a normal life to look forward to, with chatting with people, friends, social events, chats at work, then that's not much of a life. I'm recovering to be free, not to live a half life.

No but a lot of businesses will fold over the winter anyway due to the price of utilities and supplies and a lot of people won't be able to afford to go out so a fiscal lockdown I suppose.

I don’t think we’ll lock down again, because no one will pay for that.
Masks and ventilation are sensible options whenever cases start rising (although heat + ventilation is too expensive an option at the moment, so it’ll be a cold winter).
I think illness rates will make problems worse in places that are already struggling for staff. As that’s just about every industry and service I can think of, we’ll all need to adjust our expectations.

Come on. Antivaxxers should really know better than to spout their nonsense in public.

I'm not about to start posting graphs and figures as it's tiresome and dull. But any common or garden idiot knows that far fewer people were getting very sick and dying as soon as the vaccine rollout started.

Whatever your academically robust sample of one person says. 🙄

Wasn’t the last lockdown more about limiting infections getting out of control in order to stopp the NHS from being overwhelmed rather than about saving lives? We’d all already had a couple of vaccines by that stage.

If so, the government could in theory very well have another lockdown. I’m not saying it’s likely, but it’s not totally out of the question.

Why was it insane? What do you invisage the alternative would have looked like?

13 days feeling wretched isn't nice but it's not a public health issue that anyone else should care about. We've all been very ill before with various things - mumps made me ill for longer than 12 days and I've never felt worse. On a macro level though so what? Illnesses exist. If people are CEV or unvaccinated then it matters to them but to the rest of us who might or might not get unpleasantly unwell it's just a fact of life now.

Why would it be sensible? Scotland never dropped mask requirement and have consistently had the highest rates of covid. So what about reintroducing masks is sensible?

No. I wouldn’t comply either. The government didn’t first time around. Why should we?!

Stop talking nonsense.

However you feel about lockdowns or whatever, there is an overwhelming body of evidence showing the impact vaccines made and are making.

I'd support maybe masks and social distancing, restricting international travel etc if the need exists (seems to be going this way) as we enter into winter, though I don't think a lockdown would be either followed by many.

I disagree with many here that the first lockdown was unnecessary, I do genuinely feel much evidence shows that had we locked down far earlier as opposed to watching in horror at Italy and similar , our own lockdown may have been far shorter. I found it as hard as the next person and deeply challenging in terms of some family health/support worries which of course is now infuriating in the light of Partygate. I don't think many would comply again, which is a shame if it may ever be needed again, specifically for the CV... however if we want to avoid lockdowns we do need all to be prepared to take some other preventative measures, vaccination numbers are low in my area and circle of acquaintances, again I think because people are tired, fed up of the double standards and suspicious of a government who have universally let them down.
All anybody can do at this point is make decisions for their own household and extended family, hopefully with some considerations for those who may not have the privilege of choices open to so many others.

Ah do the vaccine makes covid worse. That would be why so many more vaccinated people survive it then.

I voted YANBU, because I was answering your last paragraph.
No point in another lockdown. People won’t comply so minimal benefit in preventing spread, businesses already struggling would fold, the economy would suffer further, the cost of living crisis would worsen with a massive effect on health….
We have vaccines, and medications for the CEV. Death rates and hospitalisations are lower than in the first wave. Lockdown would cost more than it would save (in humanitarian terms, not just financial)

Yep I think the first lockdown was necessary ,but the second was stupid either they should have closed schools or not ,not have the situation whereby classes were almost full in some cases, because suddenly everyone was a "key worker ".

We’ve been told by school that kids should be in if they have a cold, not kept at home.

Some people actually seem to foam at the mouth at the prospect of another lockdown.

Move on with your life now, it's not happening.

No, not going back there

And as for the OP, what I'd like to know is when people are going to stop posting shit-stirring threads? There's no suggestion of another lockdown unless you live in the People's Republic of China.

I'd support maybe masks and social distancing, restricting international travel etc if the need exists

So let's not just hammer hospitality, let's put the nail in the coffin of the travel industry too! Yay! 🙄