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Is there much point getting DD vaccinated

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BasementIdeas · 15/04/2022 08:05

We’ve had an invite through for DD (10) to get the vaccine. I’m just not sure if there’s any point. She’s had Covid twice in the last 4 months with barely a symptom either time. Also, case numbers seem to have started declining now and, if the last 2 years are anything to go by, I expect the summer to be pretty quiet. So is there any point in getting her vaccinated when the vaccine will just wear off in a few months?

I’m thinking about holding off and just reevaluating in October to potentially get her vaccinated before next winter’s surge. Anything I’ve missed?

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Letmethinkidontknow · 15/04/2022 10:55

No, I don’t think there’s any point at all, but it’s me. Fully vaccinated myself, I’m a firm believer that NO medical intervention is justified unless there’s a CLEAR and significant benefit to my children’s body. I see no benefit whatsoever. Yes, we don’t know the long term effects of covid itself. But our children already went through a natural infection and I don’t feel the need to add up potential side effects of the vaccine that does nothing for them.

Letmethinkidontknow · 15/04/2022 10:57

@Moodlesofnoodles
And the vaccine stops you from spreading covid? Really? Especially in case of asymptomatic infections, where is the proof. Even the official “recommendation” doesn’t sound at all convincing

Letmethinkidontknow · 15/04/2022 10:59

@Live4weekend
I believe that is the best course of action. Evidence is not compelling at the moment, but we can always reevaluate and decide to vaccinate later for children under 12

mrziggycoco · 15/04/2022 11:13

What is their risk of complications from COVID infection?
What is their risk of complications from the vaccine?
What is the improvement in risk from the vaccine? (isn't it 80% above your current risk?) So if his risk is, say, 1%, that's already really low?

Personally I think if you've gone two years in this pandemic and not suffered serious complications an improvement of under 1% against the risk of vaccine injury, which at this point is completely unknown, isn't worth it?

Look at Pandemrix, it took a few years for the brain damage to be known. Why take the risk now when it's been two years and they've been fine?

Blogblogblogblog · 15/04/2022 11:25

Personally I would give them the vaccine. Many studies have shown that the risk from heart problems etc is greater in unvaccinated people than vaccinated people in all those catching covid. Knowing a young person who has just had their 3rd dose of covid, their symptoms were different each time. Another top up of immunity would, on balance, be a good thing.

However I am biased as my perfectly healthy teenager became disabled from an unidentified virus than affected no one else the way it affected her (encephalitis led to a brain injury).

Scientists are also now saying it’s the glandular fever virus that can lead to MS - sometimes years later.

So personally, I say take everything offered.

JS87 · 15/04/2022 11:29

We are in a similar situation. I can’t see the point personally. Every single triple vaccinated person I know is gradually catching omicron even after prior infections. She’s already had covid twice so has some memory. She’s therefore not at risk of serious disease and I can’t see how an outdated vaccine is going to help much. I’m going to reassess when a new variant specific vaccine/ nasal vaccine comes out which would protect more from infection. Two natural infections in a child is almost certainly going to protect against serious illness. It just doesn’t look like the vaccine will give much more protection against infection than the infections she’s already had.

Velvian · 15/04/2022 11:41

I'm not sure primary DCs are likely to have 12 weeks clear of the virus at the moment. DD's BF just tested positive for the 2nd time in about 7 weeks. My DCs have just had it (we all have), so it will be a while before we can book them in, if we decide to.

Velvian · 15/04/2022 11:46

@Blogblogblogblog, that's interesting. Both me and Dsis were ill with ME as adolescents (think it it started with Glandular Fever) Dsis had Encephalitis and has MS and I'm in the process of MS diagnosis too.

I hope a GF vaccine is rolled out soon, my DD is now the age we were when we got ill.

Cornettoninja · 15/04/2022 11:48

I wouldn’t base your decision on cases declining. They are but from record highs to still very high numbers. Plus we have observed a previous pattern of numbers dropping during spring/summer and school holidays - never from the kinds of numbers we are experiencing currently.

I see the logic of your other points but I think you’re perspective of dropping cases may be off.

LeftFootForward · 15/04/2022 11:58

Personally I'd hang fire until autumn and the reassess the situation.
If she's recently had it she'll have the same, if not better protection than from a vaccine IMO.

Glamora · 15/04/2022 12:00

How is it anecdotal??

People are not testing now, I probably have it, but am not paying for a test to find out

FairyCakeWings · 15/04/2022 12:02

I wouldn’t get it for a pre pubescent child, it will have no benefit to your dd. She’s already had more than one strain of covid and the vaccine doesn’t appear to do much to stop people getting it. If she does get it again presumably you’d still isolate her, so what’s the point?

Blogblogblogblog · 15/04/2022 12:03

Velvian sorry to hear about your MS diagnoses. Scientists are trying to develop a glandular fever vaccine now. Dd has epilepsy now and can stop breathing in her sleep, when ill. Which makes going to school now surrounded by lots of coughing unmasked people daunting for us all.

Blossomandbee · 15/04/2022 12:04

I'm struggling to see the point of it. My primary age DC's have recently had Covid, had nothing more than cold symptoms. My teenager who's double vaccinated caught it off them and had it much worse.
It doesn't stop them catching it or spreading it and the effects of the vaccine are apparently short lived. The benefits don't outweigh potential risks in my opinion.

SpringRainbow · 15/04/2022 12:26

@Velvian

I must admit it has crossed my mind, now people aren’t testing as much (if at all) then how would they possibly know going forward if they have had a mild/ asymptomatic case of Covid recently?

MintyIguana · 15/04/2022 12:53

Will they even be offering travel vaccine passports to primary age kids? At the moment it's just for 12+ isn't it?

Pop175 · 15/04/2022 13:48

Ds is similar age, dd is a bit younger. I had a letter for Ds a while ago as he is on the learning disability register. I'm not getting them done, for now anyway. I've had mine as has dh but not rushing into it for the kids.

Ds has had it once and Dd twice in the last few months. Both had minimal symptoms. It doesn't stop you from getting it, so what's the point when I know my kids have had it and been fine? I also believe they had it in early 2020 but who knows 🤷‍♀️

I'm no longer buying the getting vaccinated and protecting other people thing. I'm all for protecting the vulnerable, I've taken covid very seriously but the vaccine does not stop you from catching or spreading it. It may minimise symptoms etc but the vulnerable will be vaccinated themselves.

This is my opinion anyway. I'm not anti vax, far from it but I just don't see the point in vaccinating mine right now!!

Pop175 · 15/04/2022 13:48

@Blossomandbee

I'm struggling to see the point of it. My primary age DC's have recently had Covid, had nothing more than cold symptoms. My teenager who's double vaccinated caught it off them and had it much worse. It doesn't stop them catching it or spreading it and the effects of the vaccine are apparently short lived. The benefits don't outweigh potential risks in my opinion.

Hit the nail on the head!

Heythere13 · 15/04/2022 13:49

Hugely pro vaccine here
For me

Not. A. Chance. For my children

Guineapigssweak · 15/04/2022 14:04

@Blogblogblogblog I got ME at 14 after a nasty virus. Wasn't taken to the Dr but a few years later my Dr said it was either Glandular Fever or Flu. I have had years of being severely tired and with muscle pain, IBS and migraines. At the time of illness I couldn't even brush my hair and after returning to school I couldn't walk up the stairs. No Dr and no blood test sadly. My mum simply didn't help me and I just got on with it. Now I am careful what injections I have and medications as I worry a lot. My sister had encephalitis and now Crohn's disease.

KosherDill · 15/04/2022 14:11

@Samarie123

If she’s had covid then she’ll be protected.

It's not just a matter of her, though. It's about preventing more mutations.

KosherDill · 15/04/2022 14:13

@Dogsandbabies

I asked my DD 10 if she wanted to have it. And went with her choice.

Letting a child make decisions that affect public health, amid a deadly global pandemic?

Heythere13 · 15/04/2022 14:16

@KosherDill

When it comes to my children “public health” is a secondary consideration to what I think is best for THEM

Heythere13 · 15/04/2022 14:17

I’m going to take a punt @KosherDill

You’re not a parent

Velvian · 15/04/2022 14:35

@Blogblogblogblog it sounds like your DD has really been through the mill. It is frustrating when people are so dismissive of viruses when you have experience of how they can change your life in an instant.

for you and DD. X

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