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Boris refused to rule out lockdown

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Puppylucky · 09/04/2022 09:53

Boris Johnson refused to deny that he would consider lockdown again if the Covid Pandemic took an unexpected turn and now the papers are full of lockdown headlines again. Will we ever move beyond this?

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SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 09/04/2022 14:08

@Scianel

Just when I was starting to relax, there comes another little reminder that they can fuck with my life again whenever they feel like it. Great.
They?

You mean viruses?

Antarcticant · 09/04/2022 14:17

I don’t think lateral flow tests are picking up the new variants.

I've got it at the moment, so most likely Omicron, and had a positive LFT. I'm sneezing and coughing, and my nose is like a waterfall. Quite shocking to think it would be perfectly legal for me to wander round town spreading it to all and sundry including vulnerable people (obviously I am going nowhere further than my sofa!).

SirVixofVixHall · 09/04/2022 14:26

Lateral flow tests seem a bit hit and miss with the new variants. Anyway I know far more people with Covid now that at any point in the past. There are so many people here with it that I am worried walking the dog! I agree with pps that allowing people to go out and about freely is a mistake. We really don’t want another variant that is suddenly much more lethal.

Malibuismysecrethome · 09/04/2022 14:26

I’ve had 3 negative LFT and can’t hardly get out of bed. I have all the symptoms.

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Puppylucky · 09/04/2022 14:27

Sorry just come back to this thread - the headlines are the Telegraph Guardian and The Times digital versions . They've dropped down the page as they were first released last night - so 8th story down? According to all reports Johnson was asked specifically about lockdowns and that was the context of his answer not NPIs in general. Hope that answers the posters who surprisingly couldn't find anything!

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Scianel · 09/04/2022 14:40

You mean viruses?

No I mean politicians. You know that though.

HesterShaw1 · 09/04/2022 15:02

Yes well "Boris" can fuck off.

HardyBuckette · 09/04/2022 15:37

@Malibuismysecrethome

I don’t think he (Boris) should have scrapped PCR testing. I don’t think lateral flow tests are picking up the new variants. Personally I know more people sick with Covid now than in lockdown. Surely we can’t have gone through the past 2 years to let it run rife again. Being triple jabbed hasn’t stopped me from being really ill.
The existence of PCR testing hadn't prevented it from running rife though, I'm not sure there's any 'letting' involved at this point. Not with something so contagious.
Malibuismysecrethome · 09/04/2022 16:08

My doctor said that in the surgery people had had negative LFT but then had a positive PCR. Surely there is no point in going through the last 2 years to let the virus take hold again. Reports coming out of Shanghai are heartbreaking.

TheKeatingFive · 09/04/2022 16:14

Surely there is no point in going through the last 2 years to let the virus take hold again.

What did you think the 'last two years' would achieve?

Reports coming out of Shanghai are heartbreaking.

Yet that's exactly what 'not letting the virus take hold' looks like

HardyBuckette · 09/04/2022 16:19

@Malibuismysecrethome

My doctor said that in the surgery people had had negative LFT but then had a positive PCR. Surely there is no point in going through the last 2 years to let the virus take hold again. Reports coming out of Shanghai are heartbreaking.
Again, where's this 'let' coming from? If actual lockdown isn't enough, what else would prevent it taking hold?
Scianel · 09/04/2022 16:31

Surely there is no point in going through the last 2 years to let the virus take hold again. Reports coming out of Shanghai are heartbreaking

If they can't even control the virus by locking people indoors to starve, what do you think any further lockdown measures here will achieve?

It's sunk costs fallacy about the last two years. The virus is here, it has taken hold and it's staying here.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 09/04/2022 16:51

@Scianel

You mean viruses?

No I mean politicians. You know that though.

But you should mean the viruses. That's the point.

But you know that, though!

Malibuismysecrethome · 09/04/2022 16:53

Maybe read my post and see that I think PCR tests should still be available. No free LFT and no PCR testing will be disastrous.

HardyBuckette · 09/04/2022 17:07

@Malibuismysecrethome

Maybe read my post and see that I think PCR tests should still be available. No free LFT and no PCR testing will be disastrous.
But widespread free LFT and PCR testing certainly didn't keep Omicron at bay here, and doing much more than that hasn't stopped it getting into China either, so again where does this 'let' come from? It's unstoppable.
Benjispruce4 · 09/04/2022 17:10

This isn’t good.

Boris refused to rule out lockdown
mrburrsir · 09/04/2022 17:13

Well he can’t really say restrictions will 100% never ever come back without knowing the future

I highly highly doubt future restrictions (if it does come to that) will ever resemble a 2020 lockdown again though, those days are over.

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 09/04/2022 17:15

Well they'll be looking at the numbers in hospital (testing on admission) both for admitted with and because of. And that the figure that matters most. Even admitted with buggers up tackling the backlog, as hospitals will need to be able to treat vulnerable patients safely, so they will still need separation of services.

Also qualifying health and care staff still get free tests, as do those CEV who qualified for the third primary jab or potentially qualify for antibody/antiviral treatments.

Also those who want to travel will still pay for tests (so that if they have it they can potentially qualify for a recovery certificate and not risk a residual positive on a travel test buggering up their holiday. And those who want to visit highly vulnerable relatives or friends might pay to test. That should be number crunched in to some sort of measure of prevalence

What I'm not sure about is whether there are any programmes of sentinel testing, or if they are relying on the numbers likely to keep testing being adequate

Nelliephant1 · 09/04/2022 17:32

He shouldn't refuse to rule it out. I agree with him on little or nothing but I do agree with him on this.

Covid is far from over and numbers are sky high. People are largely ignoring it now which is highly dangerous, he should be tightening everything up and not just standing by watching things escalate.

TheKeatingFive · 09/04/2022 17:39

he should be tightening everything up and not just standing by watching things escalate.

But what would that achieve?

They're in strict lockdown in China and struggling to contain it.

Scianel · 09/04/2022 17:42

But you should mean the viruses. That's the point

No, why should I pretend that the virus impacted us more than the lockdowns when it's not true?

HesterShaw1 · 09/04/2022 18:07

@Nelliephant1

He shouldn't refuse to rule it out. I agree with him on little or nothing but I do agree with him on this.

Covid is far from over and numbers are sky high. People are largely ignoring it now which is highly dangerous, he should be tightening everything up and not just standing by watching things escalate.

We tried that, remember?

Excess deaths are normal since Christmas. We should not be "tightening everything up". That has caused immeasurable harm.

Scianel · 09/04/2022 18:26

HesterShaw1 I wonder how far taxes and cost of living will have to rise before some people go off the lockdowns idea.
We're in a world of hurt already imo and it'll be a lot more apparent in a few months. I'm guessing a lot will get blamed on the Ukraine crisis.

HesterShaw1 · 09/04/2022 18:36

@Scianel

HesterShaw1 I wonder how far taxes and cost of living will have to rise before some people go off the lockdowns idea. We're in a world of hurt already imo and it'll be a lot more apparent in a few months. I'm guessing a lot will get blamed on the Ukraine crisis.
Yes without doubt that will happen.
mmmmmmghturep · 09/04/2022 23:16

Would people refuse lockdown if a new variant or virus was particularly deadly for children

As a childfree by choice woman who always got stuck with the shit shifts in the past and it was never reciprocated i really wouldnt like to say.

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