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When travel possible after positive lft (pic attached)?

27 replies

Seveninahouse · 17/02/2022 09:05

This is DS lft from this morning... He has had a scratchy throat, runny nose and has been feeling achy for two days. Lfts have been negative up until now. I am pretty sure it is a faint positive (correct me if I am wrong!!). DS was due to travel by plane to Germany at the weekend. What are the guidelines? Providing he feels fit and well, what is the earliest possible date he could travel and what are the requirements for this? Thanks!

When travel possible after positive lft (pic attached)?
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sofakingcool · 17/02/2022 09:08

I can't see a line at all? Usually I'm pretty good at seeing the squinters

sofakingcool · 17/02/2022 09:09

Actually, I can see a very very faint shadow..

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Seveninahouse · 17/02/2022 09:11

You are right, it is not as visible in this post as it is on my phone...
Here is an enhanced version - there definitely something.

When travel possible after positive lft (pic attached)?
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ColettesEarrings · 17/02/2022 09:14

Today is day zero. If he gets two negatives on 22nd and 23rd he could in theory fly on 23rd. But you'd have to check all the conditions for the country you're entering. Have you retorted the positive lft? That will suspend his covid pass.

givememarmite · 17/02/2022 09:16

Well you need a negative test to enter Germany, so if you take that as positive he wont be able to travel on the weekend sorry.
If it is positive and confirmed with PCR, the earliest he could travel as a 'recovered' person, is 28 days after the positive PCR test.
(I take it he's over the age of 6 though? You don't mention anyone travelling with him, just under 6 so not need any proof of negative test but do need to quarantine for 5 days on arrival.)

sofakingcool · 17/02/2022 09:16

@Seveninahouse

You are right, it is not as visible in this post as it is on my phone... Here is an enhanced version - there definitely something.
I can see it now Sad, sorry OP. Today is day zero I believe
givememarmite · 17/02/2022 09:17

I meant to say I live in Germany and got that info from the German foreign office website, will try and link the English language version for you

Dinoboymama · 17/02/2022 09:18

What is Germanys rules for self isolation after a test. It may be they have longer isolation times so even if out of isolation here you would be breaking their rules entering.

givememarmite · 17/02/2022 09:18

www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/coronavirus/2317268

Here you go. Scroll down to mandatory testing and proof of immunity.

Houseplantmad · 17/02/2022 09:18

Day zero is the first day of symptoms or the day of positive test it asymptomatic.

Dinoboymama · 17/02/2022 09:19

If he is due to travel this weekend he definitely cannot go as he would still be in the isolation period and risk infecting those on the plane.

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Seveninahouse · 17/02/2022 09:21

@ColettesEarrings

Today is day zero. If he gets two negatives on 22nd and 23rd he could in theory fly on 23rd. But you'd have to check all the conditions for the country you're entering. Have you retorted the positive lft? That will suspend his covid pass.
Thanks! Okay, so two (home) negative lfts and then, I presume, the usual (official) negative test which is required for flights... As PCR and antigen are both possible, so I guess antigen is better as PCR can show up positive for a long time? Will report test for his Covid Pass.
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Watapalava · 17/02/2022 09:30

Firstly isolation ends even for covid next week so don't be taken in by all the panic people saying you cant fly as next week you could. Plenty of people right now are flying all over the world with covid given vax people usually don't need a test to fly and enter a country. Long gone are the days of peolpe cancelling holidays and losing thousands for covid voluntarily.

Is your DS vax? If so he doesn't need a test so if well and he travelled noone would be none the wiser. The travel pass will stay active as long as lft not reported.

Its clear as day on gov website that fully vax from UK do not need a test.

Under 6 need no tests or isolation so no issue.

Unvax 6-17 are subject to quarantine so i'm guessing hes under 6 or an adult to be going in the first place

Watapalava · 17/02/2022 09:35

OP my post will get deleted im sure but do not report that lft! He wont need a test so if hes ok he can just go.

If you report then he's within 14 days - most countries in their pre travel form make you declare that your positive test was 14+ days ago. His travel pass will disappear

www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/germany/entry-requirements

TheVolturi · 17/02/2022 09:39

It looks like an evap line to me. Test again tomorrow and meanwhile say nothing.

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Seveninahouse · 17/02/2022 09:58

@givememarmite

https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/coronavirus/2317268

Here you go. Scroll down to mandatory testing and proof of immunity.

Can't find anything about how long the infection has to be ago though?
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Watapalava · 17/02/2022 10:06

OP if your ds has a covid pass showing he's vax he doesn't need a test. The link posted previously was updated. It's now test or vax or recovery.

If he's unvax then it would have to be lft but you cant declare he has had covid - even when checking in online for flights it usually asks you to confirm you haven't had covid or been in contact within 14 days - tui did with us last month

Check his airline

Dinoboymama · 17/02/2022 10:08

@Watapalava

Firstly isolation ends even for covid next week so don't be taken in by all the panic people saying you cant fly as next week you could. Plenty of people right now are flying all over the world with covid given vax people usually don't need a test to fly and enter a country. Long gone are the days of peolpe cancelling holidays and losing thousands for covid voluntarily.

Is your DS vax? If so he doesn't need a test so if well and he travelled noone would be none the wiser. The travel pass will stay active as long as lft not reported.

Its clear as day on gov website that fully vax from UK do not need a test.

Under 6 need no tests or isolation so no issue.

Unvax 6-17 are subject to quarantine so i'm guessing hes under 6 or an adult to be going in the first place

Unless the country has longer isolation times than us then they could fly but some still require 10/14days from a positive test to enter their country.
Watapalava · 17/02/2022 10:12

Thats correct Dino - but the only proof a country has of someone having had covid (who doesnt need a test to enter) is the logged pcr or lft result

If her ds tests negative he may still not be allowed to go if it goes against that countries rules

But if the current covid test isn't reported noone would know

I know not everyone agrees with that but with so many asymptomatic and so many flying without tests now, half the flight could have covid!

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Seveninahouse · 17/02/2022 10:20

@Watapalava

Thats correct Dino - but the only proof a country has of someone having had covid (who doesnt need a test to enter) is the logged pcr or lft result

If her ds tests negative he may still not be allowed to go if it goes against that countries rules

But if the current covid test isn't reported noone would know

I know not everyone agrees with that but with so many asymptomatic and so many flying without tests now, half the flight could have covid!

He is booked in for a pre flight test which he is currently taking... It might well come back negative as he does a thrrough swab of the back of his throat whereas those travel tests tend to be a little nudge in the nostril... I don't want him to pass Covid on to anyone so if the official test is negative, I thinnk I will rebook his flight mid next week or so...
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Watapalava · 17/02/2022 10:25

I understand op - but why not reply on lft? He doesn't need a pre flight test?

Watapalava · 17/02/2022 10:27

For info - not sure who he's using - but randox travel tests literally go up to the brain :) They take it very seriously - they dug around for ages! If he doesnt' need it why not just rely on his own lft?

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Seveninahouse · 17/02/2022 10:34

@Watapalava

I understand op - but why not reply on lft? He doesn't need a pre flight test?
Because if the pre flight test was negative then I would rely on common sense and he would fly when he is not infectious, a few days later than planned, obviously with another pre flight test) not when the rules state (he just told me he's actually had symptoms since Tue am but didn't bother telling anybody (typical teeenegaer))... It would be officially okay if the pre flight test is negative, if that makes sense...
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Watapalava · 17/02/2022 10:38

Yes i see

Do you know teens have to isolate even with negative test? He can d a test to release on day 5 otherwise its 10 days. I presume he must be visiting family rather than holiday.

Watapalava · 17/02/2022 10:41

(unless hes double vax)

Do check with airline tho - as part of check in procedure he will have to declare almost definitely that he hasn't had covid or been around anyone for 2 weeks. Negative test wont omit you from this.

So by all means do the pre flight test but if you plan on him travelling within 14 days if it's negative, do not report that lft positive as it'll be fraud as you'd have to lie and there'd be evidence you have lied (if you see what i mean!)