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Original poster

Selfish or just the point in the pandemic we are at!!

49 replies

Userno263647284 · 08/02/2022 14:12

I know isolation will be a thing of the past soon - hopefully. But I hope common sense will prevail and if people are ill they stay at home for a few days or if not possible social distance, avoid busy crowded places etc.

Anyway, Dp is a manager at his work but he has no say on covid isolations or sick periods etc etc, that's higher up.

Someone on his shift tested positive mid last week after their symptoms started that day.

They still went to a large scale event on Saturday as they had paid for it and didn't want to miss out or lose money. Faked a negative lft, took a friend, friend now has covid too! I'm talking event with a fair few hundred people, maybe more! They still had symptoms too.

Also, it's been 5 days now, just about. They haven't bothered doing an lft, just come back to work with some symptoms.

Dp is worried that him coming back will mean more staff catching time and dropping like flies. They are already short staffed!

I expect his work place have encouraged him to come in as they don't line staff being off. But will have a bigger problem if they all catch it!!

I know isolation will end soon, but it hasn't.. yet!!

Not sure what this point of this post is. I just hope Dp doesn't catch it, he's had it a while ago and mild, not worried about the illness. More so everything else - the isolation, loss of earnings etc!

OP posts:
Blubells · 08/02/2022 14:45

Dp is worried that him coming back will mean more staff catching time and dropping like flies.

But most people who catch don't 'drop like flies' after catching covid, especially if vaccinated!

Those who do get ill enough to need to stay home can take a few days off work, but let's not force everyone who catches it to isolate. We really can't afford that anymore!

Blubells · 08/02/2022 14:46

just hope Dp doesn't catch it, he's had it a while ago and mild, not worried about the illness. More so everything else - the isolation, loss of earnings

Exactly - let's not force people into isolation and loss of earnings!

TheApexOfMyLife · 08/02/2022 14:51

But most people who catch don't 'drop like flies' after catching covid, especially if vaccinated!

You haven’t been in a school have you?

Blubells · 08/02/2022 14:54

Maybe our school is lucky but we've had very few staff or pupils absent this term. Most teens and adults I know have had omicron very mildly and could easily have continued at school. Especially those triple vaccinated!

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Userno263647284 · 08/02/2022 14:57

On the topic of schools prior to Christmas there had been very few cases since the pandemic began but 22 out 25 of DD's class had it after Christmas plus outbreaks in throughout the school. Dd actually had it in December then caught it again from school!

Covid has hit our house twice since December. We all had it first, just Dd second time. Symptoms mild so I'm not scared of the illness, just the isolation, time off work, loss of earnings. Can't do it again 🤯

I want isolation to end, I really do. But I feel common sense will still need to be used!

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Thewindwhispers · 08/02/2022 15:05

Wow, what a selfish prick. I wonder how many people he infected and if any of them passed it on to anyone vulnerable 🤔

Fritilleries · 08/02/2022 15:24

He's selfish. I'm on day 6 of isolation and triple jabbed. It's about protecting others.

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 08/02/2022 15:30

But when isolation ends then people won't be required to stay at home unless they are actually ill? Many of the symptoms are very mild and would not necessitate staying off work at all. If you want people to stay off if they have symptoms then you cannot want isolation to end.
My symptoms have been back ache (like mild period pains), slight cough, mild tingling/almost numbness in fingers intermittently, slight tummy ache, intermittent headache, itchy face. At the moment I feel tired and a bit grotty, but if I didn't know it was covid I would be out and about as normal because none of my symptoms are particularly bad and I am perfectly able to carry on. At any other time it wouldn't have even occurred to me that these could be symptoms of an infectious illness. When isolation ends are we going to be made to feel endlessly guilty for going out and carrying on with anything other than 100% perfect health in case it's covid?

I don't know how I feel about isolation ending, I don't trust the government to make sensible or safe decisions, but equally ending it 'officially' and leaving a social pressure to isolate anyway is the worst of both worlds.

Surely the 'dropping like flies' is actually caused by isolation at this point, rather than the illness. Unless you are vulnerable it's unlikely to affect you to get it. It's shit for vulnerable people
And I'm not saying that's right, but it seems to be how things are now. Unless I've fallen for a load of lies and manipulation by government and MS media, which I concede is entirely possible.

Blubells · 08/02/2022 15:46

Surely the 'dropping like flies' is actually caused by isolation at this point, rather than the illness.

That's my experience too.

SantaClawsServiette · 08/02/2022 16:09

There is a lot to be said, not only with covid but colds or the flu, for people to be able to take sick days.

On the other hand, colds are so ubiquitous that if people stayed off every time they had one, many wouldn't work a good portion of the winter.

People are going to have to get away from the idea they can avoid covid. I know a nurse who works in full ppe in a ward, and when an asymptomatic patient was admitted pretty soon not only almost every patient, but every nurse soon tested positive.

If nurses with good hygiene practices and full ppe in a controlled environment can't avoid it, people in shops or work or schools aren't going to avoid it either. Even with the good masks, even if they wash their hands, even if people with sniffles or whatever stay home.

treeflowercat · 08/02/2022 16:23

People are going to have to get away from the idea they can avoid covid.

This. It's the only way we can move forward as a society... Otherwise all this isolation and testing will never ever stop.

treeflowercat · 08/02/2022 16:25

@Thewindwhispers

Wow, what a selfish prick. I wonder how many people he infected and if any of them passed it on to anyone vulnerable 🤔
Frankly, if you go to a big event, you've kind of got to make you peace with catching Covid, and taking precautions afterwards if you feel the need to.
Emergency73 · 08/02/2022 16:41

I think regardless of whether we are ‘going to have to learn with it’ or not, the guidelines are still in place.

The isolation period is an absolute pain. DD has just had it, I’m still in isolation - I can’t get DD to school easily. I could still now be faced with DS catching it, which puts us out for another 10 days.

Whether or not some work places are more lax than others - schools are not. They HAVE to follow the guidelines. The knock on effect on families, ability to work is not fair - at least while the guidelines are in place.

I’m triple jabbed, and even though it’s ‘mild’ for me, I don’t feel right at all. Weird dreams, tired - it’s not really like any illness I’ve had before.

Surely if people are as desperately worried about children’s education as they claim to be, surely we’d be doing what we can to stop the infection spreading around - and to keep children well and in school.

Emergency73 · 08/02/2022 16:45

I do deliveries, am self employed and have lost a months income with isolation. And I desperately need the money.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 08/02/2022 17:13

I'm not testing any more to be honest. If I feel really ill I'll stay home. If I have a mild cold I'm carrying on as normal. Can't afford more time off work.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 08/02/2022 17:14

@Emergency73

I do deliveries, am self employed and have lost a months income with isolation. And I desperately need the money.
That's why I'm no longer testing either me or DS. If somebody wants to come and pay my bills they can be my guest.
VikingOnTheFridge · 08/02/2022 17:18

Frankly, if you go to a big event, you've kind of got to make you peace with catching Covid, and taking precautions afterwards if you feel the need to.

This is true.

I understand the argument that people ought to obey the law as it currently stands, particularly for a leisure activity where issues of being financially excluded from the ability to isolate don't apply.

However, regardless of whether these people had gone, at a big event in the UK in February 2022 there would be Omicron there. That's a given. And the idea that observing isolation rules could control or limit the spread of Omicron at all is at best unproven.

Emergency73 · 08/02/2022 17:19

@Waxonwaxoff0

Just out of interest, seeing as about 8 children in my DD’s class currently have it…

Would you refuse to test your child if your school suspected he had Covid? How would the school react?

Would you feel anything towards the other children in the class who are choosing to follow the guidelines, and the disruption to their education?

Waxonwaxoff0 · 08/02/2022 17:23

[quote Emergency73]@Waxonwaxoff0

Just out of interest, seeing as about 8 children in my DD’s class currently have it…

Would you refuse to test your child if your school suspected he had Covid? How would the school react?

Would you feel anything towards the other children in the class who are choosing to follow the guidelines, and the disruption to their education?[/quote]
What other people choose to do is up to them and not really my concern any more. Paying my bills and keeping a roof over my own child's head is more important to me. We had 16 days off in a row last year when DS and I had Covid subsequently. I'm a single parent and if I have to do that again I'll end up in debt. Not doing it, sorry.

School aren't asking to see test results. So I'm just not testing.

Emergency73 · 08/02/2022 17:28

@Waxonwaxoff0

No schools are not asking for test results, but I was asked to pick up my DD from school last term because she was coughing.

They asked me to get a test, which I did.

I’m wondering what they’d have done if I refused.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 08/02/2022 17:31

[quote Emergency73]@Waxonwaxoff0

No schools are not asking for test results, but I was asked to pick up my DD from school last term because she was coughing.

They asked me to get a test, which I did.

I’m wondering what they’d have done if I refused.[/quote]
I'd probably just lie and say I'd done one. Not saying that's the right thing to do but I really don't have a choice if it means going without pay.

neveradullmoment99 · 08/02/2022 17:38

He is a selfish arse and is breaking the law.
He was required to isolate regardless of what might happen in the future.

Blubells · 08/02/2022 18:03

Wow, what a selfish prick. I wonder how many people he infected

Unfortunately we're going to have to accept that we're all going to get infected. Get vaccinated and be as healthy as you can.

I'd also avoid going to huge events if I was vulnerable.

HariboMaroon · 08/02/2022 18:46

I didn’t isolate for covid when I had it a few weeks ago. I felt fine.

I’ve lost too many jobs to even care now and wasn’t prepared to lose anymore money.

It’s not my responsibility to save the world. It is my responsibility to feed my kids though.

TheApexOfMyLife · 08/02/2022 20:25

I'd also avoid going to huge events if I was vulnerable.

Lol you have clue have you?
CEV dont just avoid huge events. They avoid supermarkets, pubs and restaurants. They avoid seeing friends and family in enclosed spaces.
They try and balance their dc going to school vs them taking the risk of dying if dc brings covid back home.
They basically live like recluse.
Some parents have gone as far as not restricting hugging their own children because of that.

You really have no clue on how contagious omicron is nor the impact it has on those families.