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TinaYouFatLard · 07/02/2022 14:50

No.

HeyBlaby · 07/02/2022 14:53

N95 masks, jesus wept, throughout the height of this we were treating patients with Covid with surgical masks not N95, they were reserved for aerosol generating procedures.

I can that 'N95' and similar masks are highly uncomfortable and should not be worn by 6 year olds for the whole of a school day, insanity.

Giveaschitt · 07/02/2022 14:55

No.

2X4B523P · 07/02/2022 15:16

No and just because it’s something they do in the US it’s not something we need to do. We’ve had all the “we need to look east”, we don’t need a “we all need to look west” either.

HesterShaw1 · 07/02/2022 15:31

No.

And Fake Sage can go back to doing what they did before the excitement and fame that the pandemic gave them.

treeflowercat · 07/02/2022 15:32

Making two-year old kindergarten kids wear N95 masks all day is borderline child abuse. No way will that happen in the U.K.

It's frightening how the pandemic has provided cover for neurotic control-freaks to impose unnatural and unnecessary restrictions on children in some parts of the world.

Dghgcotcitc · 07/02/2022 15:32

In an otherwise open society it is disgraceful that people are still talking about keeping children out of school with rotas etc!

The doctor who will treat you in the future, the vaccine scientist who makes you vaccine etc of the year 2050 are currently 7 years old and have yet to spend a full year in school! It’s time we recognised the long term damage this could do if we keep with this plan of keeping children out of school for long periods of time!

I know too many don’t get it but we all benefit from the education of the next generation …everyone who has taken a vaccine has! And no Sarah Gilbert didn’t develop the vaccine after watching a bbc bite size video

RobinPenguins · 07/02/2022 15:35

Should we be looking to make N95 masks compulsory from age 5 (as many US states have done), air filtration units, rota systems so that social distancing can be maintained and sending home whole year groups when there is a positive test?

No. Absolutely not. And there are very few things we should be looking to the US as a good example when it comes to covid. If you think we’ve fucked up on messaging, they’re the ones with masks on toddlers while a significant proportion of older and vulnerable adults remain unvaccinated.

BogRollBOGOF · 07/02/2022 15:42

Should we imitate China (Chengdu) where in the event of a single case, whole schools of children are rounded up, made to wear hazmat suits and bused out to serve a strict 14 day isolation basically in sealed, ventilated cells with food shoved through the door.
It's keeping their rates low...

Just because other countries do it, it doesn't mean it's actually a great idea.

Giveaschitt · 07/02/2022 15:46

And how do you think all those 'protections' will help with the mental health crisis we are seeing in children: www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-60197150 do you think that rotas and endlessly sending children home when one of them sneezes will do anything other than cause more harm than it does good?!

neveradullmoment99 · 07/02/2022 15:56

@Orchid876

There's really no justification for not installing air filtration systems where they are needed. Compared to what the government have spent so far spent on faulty unusable PPE/handed to their mates, the cost is a drop in the ocean. Other countries did this at the start of the pandemic to try and make schools safer, but our government have done nothing. Even if you ignore the hospitalisation of children, just to limit so much lost learning due to isolation and teachers being ill and off work, would be worth it.

Absolutely this. Its a nasty disease, even although children can be mildly affected, we don't really know, esp primary, how is may affect the down the line. My youngest is recovering from covid. It's upset her sense of taste. Hoping it's short lived bit who knows. The least we can do is hepa filters.

Fizzbo · 07/02/2022 16:07

For heavens sakes, enough. This has to stop 🙄

Narutocrazyfox · 07/02/2022 16:10

Absolutely not. It's time for restrictions to stop now - children need to be in school and not to continually have their education disrupted.

MarshaBradyo · 07/02/2022 16:11

No

OnceuponaRainbow18 · 07/02/2022 16:19

Somethings should be done, like air filtration, maybe increase in pay for supply teachers to attract some back, but I don’t think masks for young kids are the answer

Pootle40 · 07/02/2022 16:23

I thought for a minute I had stepped back in time......

SantaClawsServiette · 07/02/2022 17:03

Goodness know! I feel crappy after wearing a fake N95 mask for 5 hours at work.

Better air filtration etc is a good goal for schools irrespective of covid. And maybe more achievable if the government isn't spending all its money on masks and tests etc.

ShallWeTalkAboutBruno · 07/02/2022 17:32

@SantaClawsServiette

Goodness know! I feel crappy after wearing a fake N95 mask for 5 hours at work.

Better air filtration etc is a good goal for schools irrespective of covid. And maybe more achievable if the government isn't spending all its money on masks and tests etc.

Agreed. My oldest daughters classroom doesn’t have a window. That was unacceptable pre covid, and will still be unacceptable when covid stops being a big threat. But while they’re spunking cash on millions of ‘free’ (not free) lateral flow tests etc, that won’t happen.

OliveTree75 · 07/02/2022 17:36

I also had to check this wasnt a zombie thread. Hell no to rota systems. I can get on board with air filters but at this point no to anything else. And I am a teacher. Most of my class have had covid now at least once and none have had more than a mild cold.

CarrieBlue · 07/02/2022 17:41

No, no mitigation at all with mn, didn’t you know we are supposed to pretend it doesn’t exist? MN only cares about child mental health when it can be used as an excuse to put no protections in school, despite mental health services being crap for years, only care about the state of school buildings as a sop to pretend they care about keeping children and staff safe, but children must be in school. Bit of a problem when 16% of staff are off, but that’s ok because as long as there’s a warm body in front of the class that counts as education. Or childcare. Or not having to look after your own child. All for the want of a mask and some distancing.

Proudplantowner · 07/02/2022 17:43

No, we shouldn't make little children wear masks.
It is absolutely freezing in my classroom too. I get that we need good ventilation, but it's really tough for children and staff to focus when we are shivering with the door and windows open. I'm not sure what thr solution is though.

OliveTree75 · 07/02/2022 17:46

@CarrieBlue

No, no mitigation at all with mn, didn’t you know we are supposed to pretend it doesn’t exist? MN only cares about child mental health when it can be used as an excuse to put no protections in school, despite mental health services being crap for years, only care about the state of school buildings as a sop to pretend they care about keeping children and staff safe, but children must be in school. Bit of a problem when 16% of staff are off, but that’s ok because as long as there’s a warm body in front of the class that counts as education. Or childcare. Or not having to look after your own child. All for the want of a mask and some distancing.

ShallWeTalkAboutBruno · 07/02/2022 17:48

@CarrieBlue

No, no mitigation at all with mn, didn’t you know we are supposed to pretend it doesn’t exist? MN only cares about child mental health when it can be used as an excuse to put no protections in school, despite mental health services being crap for years, only care about the state of school buildings as a sop to pretend they care about keeping children and staff safe, but children must be in school. Bit of a problem when 16% of staff are off, but that’s ok because as long as there’s a warm body in front of the class that counts as education. Or childcare. Or not having to look after your own child. All for the want of a mask and some distancing.

Do you wear a N95 all day at work? Distance from your colleagues? Quarantine when someone you’re in contact with tests positive?

lonelyplanet · 07/02/2022 17:51

@CarrieBlue

No, no mitigation at all with mn, didn’t you know we are supposed to pretend it doesn’t exist? MN only cares about child mental health when it can be used as an excuse to put no protections in school, despite mental health services being crap for years, only care about the state of school buildings as a sop to pretend they care about keeping children and staff safe, but children must be in school. Bit of a problem when 16% of staff are off, but that’s ok because as long as there’s a warm body in front of the class that counts as education. Or childcare. Or not having to look after your own child. All for the want of a mask and some distancing.

Quite. You'd think at least some of the outspoken mnetters might use this as a chance to campaign for a better education system - smaller class sizes, better funding, easy to access mental health councillors, cleaner schools, better outdoor facilities, less unnecessary and pointless testing of primary kids etc.etc. - but no all they want is everything to stay as shit as ever with pupil absence and sick staff thrown in as an extra bonus.

HesterShaw1 · 07/02/2022 17:53

@CarrieBlue

No, no mitigation at all with mn, didn’t you know we are supposed to pretend it doesn’t exist? MN only cares about child mental health when it can be used as an excuse to put no protections in school, despite mental health services being crap for years, only care about the state of school buildings as a sop to pretend they care about keeping children and staff safe, but children must be in school. Bit of a problem when 16% of staff are off, but that’s ok because as long as there’s a warm body in front of the class that counts as education. Or childcare. Or not having to look after your own child. All for the want of a mask and some distancing.

Don't be so silly