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Vaccinating healthy 11 year old

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Hocuspocusandfairies · 04/02/2022 12:32

Can I please ask you all whether you'd get your healthy 11 year old vaccinated as my son has come home with a letter and I've no idea what to do.

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BewareTheLibrarians · 06/02/2022 01:18

@Narutocrazyfox You’ve done your research and made the decision that’s right for you and that’s all any of us can do really! Absolutely no argument with that.

It was just the point that you wouldn’t give a vaccine to a healthy child. Vaccines are given to healthy children (as well as those with underlying conditions of course) to keep them healthy and protect them from disease, so I’m a bit worried to see multiple people on this thread say they would never give a vaccine to a healthy child. Surely as parents we know that’s not the case. Someone with less knowledge might read that and panic that giving vaccines to healthy children is not OK, so I’d hope that people would bear that in mind and post responsibly.

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BewareTheLibrarians · 06/02/2022 01:51

😂😂 you again? Piss off you obsessive little name changing twat.

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milliemd · 06/02/2022 01:58

No way.
Do your research and check out the figures released from ONS abut people who have actually died from COVID...

www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/covid19deathsandautopsiesfeb2020todec2021?fbclid=IwAR0Brn8vAQ82iiL8d7Xz9sPw6Nh6BKsweZa-SOy_wjX2esX6evVTlKbAUrg

Table 1: Number of deaths where COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate, 1 February 2020 to 31 December 2021, by sex and age group, England and Wales

Age group
Males
Females

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LemonSwan · 06/02/2022 02:13

I wouldnt

coraka · 06/02/2022 02:29

Yes. Some children are badly damaged by COVID. I don't want to take that risk.

Narutocrazyfox · 06/02/2022 09:42

@bewarethelibrarians my statement applies to the COVID vaccine only. It is only the covid vaccine I would not give to a healthy child. Other vaccines yes, this one, no. Perhaps I should have said 'child not at risk from a covid infection' instead - however, a healthy child would be at risk from meningitis, say, or measles. Please do not confuse these points.

BewareTheLibrarians · 06/02/2022 10:57

@Narutocrazyfox Ah I see, thanks for clarifying (which I think you also did upthread and I missed it - sorry!)

My point here is though, that you can’t second guess which children are “safe from covid infection”. Children who are completely healthy have had bad infections, Mis-c, and post covid complications, my son being one of them. He was slim, sporty, healthy, never usually got ill, it has been dealing with after effects for 22 months. How? He should have been “completely safe”. I’m saying that gently by the way, tone is difficult on mn!

(Naruto this next bit’s not directed at you)

Now me talking about this seems to make some people incredibly angry so to be clear, I know it’s rare and isn’t going to happen to every child. And if people have made the decision not to vaccinate their child for reasons important to them, that’s completely understandable and no one should be forced to have a vaccine.

But the assertion that healthy children cannot be harmed by covid is not correct. I think people are just relying on a numbers game, that their child will never be one of the “unlucky” ones. Which is fair enough if they’re comfortable with that.

However, I’d feel a bit shit if I just read statements that said “covid doesn’t harm children” and said nothing. I feel that it’s worth saying something if it raises awareness and stops any child going through what ds has been through.

I’m not advocating lockdowns, mandatory vaccines, restrictions, permanent masking or any of the bullshit that usually gets thrown my way. I’m just an exhausted mum trying to make people aware of something that could make a difference to their child.

Narutocrazyfox · 06/02/2022 11:02

Thanks @bewarethelibraians and I am so sorry your son is still suffering the after effects. I really hope he feels better soon x

MarshaBradyo · 06/02/2022 11:05

Beware do you think that risk changes if the dc has already had Covid?

Eg Ds had delta and no symptoms really so I wondered if that changes the balance again

I also know the vaccine risk is very small so I’d say I’m on the fence (I have decided but still not sure it was best but then again I am grateful that choosing is the hard part)

On the healthy child part I think the meaning has become more muddled here as the descriptor ‘healthy children’ has been used as a counterpoint to children with vulnerability in messaging

BewareTheLibrarians · 06/02/2022 11:10

@Narutocrazyfox

Thanks *@bewarethelibraians* and I am so sorry your son is still suffering the after effects. I really hope he feels better soon x
Thanks so much Naruto Flowers I hope so too and I’m sure he will! Embarrassingly, he’s dealing with it much better than I am given the state of my posts yesterday. Blush
Youneverknowwhatyourgonnaget · 06/02/2022 11:18

This is what I think about most lately. My kids 15 and 12 havnt had it and I really don’t want them to. Both had Covid both completely fine yet we know there are yes small but still risk with the vaccine. The problem is travel we love to travel and I don’t them to be limited to where they can go but on the other hand seems wrong as a reason to give them a vaccine to protect them from a virus that poses no threat to them. Infact I didn’t even want the vaccine and definitely don’t think I needed it but did it to make holidays easier. It’s not as easy a decision when it’s my kids thoughConfused

BewareTheLibrarians · 06/02/2022 11:26

Marsha that’s a really good question and I have no idea!

I have heard that childrens immune response is weaker (possibly as infection tends to be milder) leaving them more prone to reinfection but I can’t remember where I read that so you may want to take that with a pinch of salt Smile

It would be great, for example, if research showed that children infected twice or more didn’t need to be vaccinated. I hope it’s an area that’s being researched thoroughly as it is a really interesting question.

MarshaBradyo · 06/02/2022 12:10

@BewareTheLibrarians

Marsha that’s a really good question and I have no idea!

I have heard that childrens immune response is weaker (possibly as infection tends to be milder) leaving them more prone to reinfection but I can’t remember where I read that so you may want to take that with a pinch of salt Smile

It would be great, for example, if research showed that children infected twice or more didn’t need to be vaccinated. I hope it’s an area that’s being researched thoroughly as it is a really interesting question.

Thanks for info, and I agree I’d like to know more, in the end we went to the appointment (yesterday)

I found it a hard decision but just thought I need to stop thinking about what to do and decide

He’s fine today and just a slightly sore arm

BewareTheLibrarians · 06/02/2022 12:42

Glad to hear he’s fine, and hope his sore arm feels better soon Marsha

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