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Vaccinating healthy 11 year old

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Hocuspocusandfairies · 04/02/2022 12:32

Can I please ask you all whether you'd get your healthy 11 year old vaccinated as my son has come home with a letter and I've no idea what to do.

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BlackLambAndGreyFalcon · 04/02/2022 19:02

Yes, but mostly for ease of travel. We are due to travel in April, but are facing having to quarantine my 9 year old dd as she is neither vaccinated or recovered from covid.

whymewhyme · 04/02/2022 19:02

NO NO NO

BewareTheLibrarians · 04/02/2022 19:08

@whymewhyme

NO NO NO
They wanna make me go to rehab, I said??
WiseUpJanetWeiss · 04/02/2022 20:09

Besides the vaccines don't work against omicron

This is a lie.

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 04/02/2022 20:11

@Hocuspocusandfairies

Thank you to everybody for sharing your views. I've been reading through. I've got the weekend to think it through before the form needs to be back for Monday. I'm wondering if it's area dependant with the age groups that they're offering vaccines to
No. It is not on offer to under 12s unless they are clinically vulnerable or live with someone who is. Your son has been given the letter meant for his older classmates.
WiseUpJanetWeiss · 04/02/2022 20:14

it won't stop him getting it or passing it on.

This is also a lie. The fact it's not 100% effective doesn't mean it's 0% effective.

TheChip · 04/02/2022 20:19

@WiseUpJanetWeiss

it won't stop him getting it or passing it on.

This is also a lie. The fact it's not 100% effective doesn't mean it's 0% effective.

2% effective then?
WiseUpJanetWeiss · 04/02/2022 20:26

2% effective then?

https://twitter.com/kevinpurcell/status/1489692086370586626?s=21

Userno263647284 · 04/02/2022 20:38

I wouldn't. I may change my mind in the future though.

I'm fully vaccinated myself, I'm not anti vax but I will not get my dc done - they aren't quite old enough yet. I may change my mind down the line.

If it stopped you from getting it spreading covid then absolutely, I'd get them done tomorrow if I could but we know it doesn't.

Dc both have had covid in December and dd again a month later. All symptoms were very very mild, had worse colds and could barley notice their symptoms - only testing as ne and dp had it. I appreciate not every child will be so mildly affected but with mine, it was so mild so why vaccinate against a virus that was already so mild for them?

TheChip · 04/02/2022 20:41

[quote WiseUpJanetWeiss]2% effective then?

[[https://twitter.com/kevinpurcell/status/1489692086370586626?s=21]][/quote]
However, the limited breadth of pre-existing antibodies permits profound escape of highly mutated Omicron variant, suggesting attenuation of vaccine effectiveness and increased risk of breakthrough infection

Quoted from the link provided in that tweet you shared. What does that mean? Is that saying that the vaccine increases breakthrough infections?

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 04/02/2022 20:46

Quoted from the link provided in that tweet you shared. What does that mean? Is that saying that the vaccine increases breakthrough infections?

No of course it doesn't. It means the vaccines are less effective against Omicron than previous variants.

WineGetsMeThroughIt · 04/02/2022 20:50

@TheChip

There is evidence of that here m.theepochtimes.com/omicron-spreads-faster-than-delta-within-vaccinated-individuals-danish-study_4192825.html

TheChip · 04/02/2022 20:51

@WiseUpJanetWeiss

Quoted from the link provided in that tweet you shared. What does that mean? Is that saying that the vaccine increases breakthrough infections?

No of course it doesn't. It means the vaccines are less effective against Omicron than previous variants.

Thanks. So it probably is more sensible to wait for a vaccine specifically against these more up to date versions of the virus then when it comes to non vulnerable children.
Crocusinthegrass · 04/02/2022 20:51

Declined jabs for our older DC already and will decline for 10 year old. Not even considered taking them. Unnecessary IMO.

SD1978 · 04/02/2022 20:52

Yes. Same as I vaccinated my healthy child with the chickenpox and flu vaccine. It's a personal choice, and the internet isn't the place to sway you one way or the other, you should be making your own mind up

Slowdownandsee · 04/02/2022 20:57

WineGetsMeThroughIt
‘They’ not sure who you are referring to but maybe medical professionals?…were indeed giving flu vaccines to children ten years ago

CeeceeBloomingdale · 04/02/2022 20:57

Healthy 11 year olds can’t have it, the school will have just sent it out to all in the year group but he won’t be able to actually have it until August. My 11yo will be having it as she soon as she’s 12. My 15 has chosen to be double vaccinated as have all of her friends.

WineGetsMeThroughIt · 04/02/2022 21:04

@Slowdownandsee

WineGetsMeThroughIt ‘They’ not sure who you are referring to but maybe medical professionals?…were indeed giving flu vaccines to children ten years ago

Well yes, of course. But there was not the push for them as there has been in recent years.

Fundays12 · 04/02/2022 21:07

@WiseUpJanetWeiss

it won't stop him getting it or passing it on.

This is also a lie. The fact it's not 100% effective doesn't mean it's 0% effective.

It's still not effective enough to convince me to vaccinate my 10 year old who had a bad reaction to his MMR and who has autism and ADHD but is generally very healthy.

2 children have died in Spain recently because of the vaccines. If I had medically vulnerable child I would be seriously considering the vaccine though.

NoResolutionsHere · 04/02/2022 21:20

Absolutely not. We (my husband and I) are double jabbed, we currently have covid. Our children are much younger than 11 but they haven't tested positive, if they have had it they didn't have symptoms (we have a feeling they gave it us but we don't test them as they hate it and short of putting them in a headlock it's impossible). Its only since my husband was positive we bothered to test them. The risk to children if they do catch it is pretty much non existent (most are asymptomatic) and the vaccine doesn't stop you catching it. If they can still catch it they are still missing school, so what exactly are they gaining? We had a d and v bug in October that we all got that lasted about a week, we were so so poorly with it, our daughter ended up in hospital. There are far more serious things that circulate that make children poorly yet here we are discussing vaccinating again a cold, which probably won't even give them any symptoms, it's madness. I still can't believe that some parents are jumping at the chance to vaccinate, I can't get my head around what they think they are protecting against?

If we have to vaccinate our children to go on holiday abroad this year I think we'll cancel (our children are all under 5).

narcdad · 04/02/2022 21:25

It's totally up to you, personally my children will not be having it. My husband and I have had the 2 jabs. We've all had covid before we're were vaccinated, no reason to give my children it.

spongebobscaredypants · 04/02/2022 21:29

No way, I've been triple jabbed as has all of my family. DP/DD/DM/DGP etc

But not my children, they aren't at risk at all, they've had it asymptotically, and although rare, I worn out them at risk of the vaccine

BewareTheLibrarians · 04/02/2022 21:30

@NoResolutionsHere If this helps you get your head around it, ds (12) has had covid and it left him with organ damage and inflammatory system problems meaning he is in pain a lot. That’s been going on since 2020. He was completely normal, healthy, skinny, sporty, always running around. No underlying conditions. No reason for him to be affected worse than anyone else, but he was.

That plus 117,000 children with long covid symptoms over a year. Plus scientists now finding physical markers of long covid, and evidence of the damage it causes to blood vessels and neurological system.

There has been more injury to children from covid than from vaccine injury, but apparently “minuscule risks” only matter if they’re from the vaccine, not from covid.

Oh, vaccine side note. He he’s had two doses and not only was he fine each time, he remained covid-free when a quarter of his class were off over 3 weeks. He’s had a good undisrupted few weeks of education thanks to the vaccine.

NoResolutionsHere · 04/02/2022 21:48

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BewareTheLibrarians · 04/02/2022 21:51

@NoResolutionsHere Can you just check the absolute hypocrisy in your post?

You don’t know any kids who were affected so my son is just “unlucky”. Wtf?

I don’t know anyone with bad side effects after the vaccine so is it ok for me to say the poor people affected in your examples are just “unlucky”?

What’s wrong with you?

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