No isolation when covid positive in March

[Whathefisgoingon]

I just cannot get my head around this.

As far as I know, no other country has announced this.

For two years they’ve told us that it’s dangerous and now they’re prepared to send me to work directly next to someone infected with covid?

I had always believed it should be more socially acceptable to simply stay home when sick, as too many feel forced in to work with flu etc, but this takes the biscuit.

I understand we need to find a way to get back to some kind of normal but this seems extreme.

Will this really happen in less than 2 months!?

They're immuno suppressed, they have a newly emerging heart condition, and have lung problems which have emerged over the last decade. Blood pressure has also become problematic and their doctor doesn't seem to know why (these are all co morbid conditions to an existing issue).
Previously they've been able to determine risk. If they catch covid, I think they won't survive it.

That's very unfortunate.

Do you think continuing the forced isolation of millions of people is the best answer to their situation? That has large costs too unfortunately.

And I wonder whether it's even possible to prevent getting covid as it's so very transmissible?

So many of my child's nursery are off with it. No symptoms but positive test

All the parents are unaffected as far as i know

I haven't caught it. How bloody infectious is this virus supposed to be?

But the kids are climbing the walls being stuck inside. Parents are going bonkers working and looking after their toddlers

Can't carry on like this

No one’s asking for self isolation or lockdowns, but a bit of consideration would be good - wearing a mask for the protection of others for example. It’s not rocket science.

Do you actually want results (in the sense of, less transmission of the virus) or merely a sort of vaguely comforting sense of "well, at least people are making some personal sacrifices and trying to do something"?

Because, as repeatedly pointed out on the thread, masks don't seem to have much impact on omicron.

Measures that might actually stop it being transmitted are not feasible. The UK is not China--thank God.

So, what next?

I get that it's shit for the CEV, but there isn't really any solution to that particular issue, is there?

@OnceuponaRainbow18

Welcome to the world of teaching

Any many other occupations

So many of my child's nursery are off with it. No symptoms but positive test

All the parents are unaffected as far as i know

I haven't caught it. How bloody infectious is this virus supposed to be?

Yes this has been our experience too! My youngest had it recently. I shared a bed with her and everything (she was only mildly symptomatic but her temperature was a bit scary the first night so I stayed close). She actually sneezed in my husbands face at one point. We never caught it.

Similar pattern with her pals who have caught it. No spread within families at all. It is really really strange.

My working theory (based on nothing!) is that parents of small kids are now immune to many of their disgusting germs.

Or it could just be the vaccines 💪

@TheWaterNokk

Yes, ive been sneezed on. Shared a bed. Wiped tears, snot, bum etc

The temp lasted a few hour and then went as quickly as it arrived

We've had worse colds.

It could be the vaccines perhaps?

@KurtWilde

But how could possibly know what Covid is like for the majority of people?

Because it's widely reported that 'for most people it will be a mild illness', and that's been the stance for the last 2 years.

That isn't what the poster said, though. She said it was like "the common cold, or symptomless for the vast majority of people". Yes, for some people it is symptomless. Most people have some kind of cold-like symptom. That doesn't make it the common cold, nor should it be treated like the common cold. It is a different virus altogether.

Most colds are caused by coronaviruses, though. One of them, HCoV-OC43, causes colds now, but is increasingly believed to be the same virus that killed millions in the "Russian flu" pandemic of 1889.
sfamjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1751-7915.13889
There is no particular dividing line between "pandemic viruses" and other viruses. We live our lives catching viruses which probably caused pandemics when they first entered populations that were immune-naive to them.

@user1477391263

Most colds are caused by coronaviruses, though. One of them, HCoV-OC43, causes colds now, but is increasingly believed to be the same virus that killed millions in the "Russian flu" pandemic of 1889. sfamjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1751-7915.13889 There is no particular dividing line between "pandemic viruses" and other viruses. We live our lives catching viruses which probably caused pandemics when they first entered populations that were immune-naive to them.

Most colds are rhinoviruses.

I work as a cleaner. Don't get paid if I don't show up. My whole team has worked throughout. No masks, no social distancing at work, only off sick if genuinely too ill to crawl in and get through the shift
Can you say it louder for the neurotic MNers at the back please who like scaring each other?
This!

Hopefully. It's all very well for people who don't have money worries to want to hide away; what about people who can't pay bills if they're isolating? Enough is enough. Covid has now mutated into a very mild strain for most.

I remember mentioning this last year when the vaccine first started and I nearly got shot by a firing squad on mn. It's nice to see people are realising this isn't the way to live. Normally, when I'm bunged up with flu I stay home anyway. If I have a sickness bug, I stay home. This country every once in a while like a broken watch, does something right. I now can't wait to see those that have been hiding for so long triple vaccinated healthy people and what excuses they will have come April.

"Most colds are rhinoviruses."

www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/common_cold_causes

According to this, rhinoviruses cause 10-40% of colds, coronaviruses about 20%. I'm not sure it actually matters much, though, given that rhinoviruses entered the human population from somewhere at some point in history too and no doubt devastated populations at that time as well.

@KurtWilde

But how could possibly know what Covid is like for the majority of people?

Because it's widely reported that 'for most people it will be a mild illness', and that's been the stance for the last 2 years.

Oh, that makes it all OK then.

@Blubells

The majority of people I know would not have needed more than a day or 2 off work if any. A big part of the staffing problems are because people who are basically well are having to stay at home.

Exactly.

People are realising that omicron causes very mild symptoms, even for the unvaccinated.

There's no need to force a large part of the population to isolate at home if they're well enough to work and contribute to society.

But unvaccinated isn’t CEV.

@Tynetime

I think the best thing they could do for the ECV especially the immunosupressed like cancer patients and those on immunosupressants would be to offer them antibody tests. It would really help them if they knew whether their 3 or 4 vaccines had generated an immune response. It must be so hard for them not knowing whether they are protected especially when they are doing unavoidable things like working and attending hospital appointments etc especially once the small level of protection we now have ends. Obviously anti viral are promising but not everyone qualifies.

The problem is that antibody testing doesn’t tell you if you are protected or not. It tells you if antibodies are found or not, but doesn’t address the level of protection.

The CEV have always has to be careful about infections. There are many circulating in the world. It’s not sustainable to keep everyone locked away now.

@ZenNudist

I do feel for the CEV but we cant all be malingering at home with no symptoms

Malingering ? Do you understand the word ?

Maybe the poster meant 'lingering'?

The CEV people I know have already been offered rapid PCR testing and access to antivirals if diagnosed.
There's already a process in place to protect then

@SunshineOnKeith

The CEV people I know have already been offered rapid PCR testing and access to antivirals if diagnosed. There's already a process in place to protect then

Yes, there is. My relative had a priority PCR sent to them. They couldn't use it in the end because the priority posts boxes weren't collected on a BH so went to a drive through and got the anti virals/antibodies once the PCR came back positive. Hopefully this can be rolled out to more CEV people.

I honestly hope so.

We're on Day 8 and Day 4. DD is bored, has been negative since Day 5 and 6 but can't go back to school because I'm positive.

I was quite ill the first 2 days but other than a blocked nose now i'm fine and would be more than well enough for work - no cough, temperature or anything. DD is absolutely fine and has been since her Day 3, so she's missed school and activities for nearly a week for no reason.

But I'm still blazing positive (tested to see if I'm likely to be let out by Day 6).

I can't afford to be isolating with a well child. I'm on zero hours, so if I'm not working I don't get paid.

I'm kind of torn. Ds1 is positive with mild cold like symptoms. Id like him to be going to school, living life as normal. But - I wouldn't take him to visit his grandparents at the moment, so should I be inflicting him on anyone elses? Probably not

My ECV DH has never been overly poorly with a cold but COVID makes him vulnerable enough to need 4 vaccines and a rapid PCR.
So I don't think this is the same situation as with other viruses. That said we are living our lives as normal as possible.
However I do know a few families where kids are positive and they they are poorly at flu level . These are healthy vaccinated women in their forties.

have never been offered anti virals, a priority PCR, 4 vaccines and been advised to shield for anything else so therefore to me, covid is more of a risk

Surely part of the reason you and others CEV have been offered these extra protection methods is because life has to resume as normal as continual isolation /testing/ restrictions aren't feasible long term. The majority of the population have had multiple vaccines to try and establish some normality, a lot of them probably had them unnecessarily from a personal risk of covid point of view. Most had them to reduce any significant effects of the virus and continue with every day life and also not impact the rest of the country by either taking up valuable hospital space needed by those who need it most and to make sure our economy doesn't grind to a halt. Everything the population of the country has done the past few years has been to protect those most medically vulnerable, its not a sustainable way of life long term