Anyone want a perpetual lockdown

[beentoldcomputersaysno]

I often see posters accused of wanting continual lockdowns, despite their post not suggesting it. I often assume it's done to deflect or antagonise posters who suggest a health measure(s) to adapt to life post-2019. However, is there anyone who posts on this board that does want perpetual lockdowns?

Not lockdowns but some here would like restrictions in the form of mask wearing in some settings and social distancing to happen every winter. It’s crazy.

@southeastdweller

Not lockdowns but some here would like restrictions in the form of mask wearing in some settings and social distancing to happen every winter. It’s crazy.

I agree with this. Or that some posters say they want them just to wind everyone up because they post the same thing on every thread. Then flounce off again. 🤔

Deepti Gurdasani and independent sage seem to want perpetual lockdowns

Yeah, that one didn't come from nowhere. I think maybe people forget what it was like on here before the likes of Nanny and John got removed. I don't know if they were all serious though

He or she just took it too far, I am sure they were on the wind up, like a broken record.

No one “wants” a perpetual lockdown but people wants a covid situation that could only happen with perpetual lockdown and are rightly called out on it. So it goeS
I want safe schools where noone gets covid
You want to shut schools
No I want magic air machines and masks that make covid go away
But your measure don’t make covid go away, there are not making covid go away in the USA even in blue states which has invested huge amounts in ventilation and has masks from kindergarten
No your wrong measures like this make covid disappear!! I know a scientist told me

And I am left with the knowledge that they don’t that many countries have masks in schools, smaller classes, ventilation and still have covid and that when the poster got there magic measures abs there was still covid they would be left with the only public health measure which does eliminate covid! Lockdown!…we know this because the Chinese aggressive anti covid strategy is not built around a few masks and magic air machines but on an aggressive system of continually lockdown of cities for small cases why if the smaller measures were so amazing would they go for some thing so damaging time and time again?

So yes I think with omicron if you want zero or very low cases you do want perpetual lockdown, and that is where you would end up when you found out that masks haven’t brought covid numbers down to very low levels in any country in the world. It’s therefore right to point this put to the poster it is the only way left to achieve low covid numbers and want people who “want” low cases actually want as the only measure to achieve it. Don’t believe me? Ask the Chinese!

@Sloughsabigplace

There are a few members of my husbands family like this.

They won’t be fully happy until you have to update a government app every time you take a shit.

They are fearful. In their heads, they were going to die, and so they won’t be happy until the rest of the worlds protects them by the last unvaccinated person being forcibly held down an injected and no one being able to live a ‘normal’ life again. Because if people do, they will die. Because covid is the only boogy man that will kill them.

It’s sad. And they aren’t old, or at at any real risk either. Just very, very afraid. It’s sad.

It’s really sad that some are so fearful. I expect they are avid BBC news watchers too.

My MIL was terrified of covid, she did catch in hospital when recovering from an accident, never had any symptoms, would not have known, if she hadn’t been tested, she was a cancer patient and well over 80. Sadly we have lost her recently due to cancer. I absolutely hate the fact that she locked herself away, from her family, at a time when she was well, due to fear.

We all know we will die someday, with the true covid death figures now available on ONS, it’s pretty unlikely to be due to Covid, if you are relatively young and healthy.

Lockdown did not achieve anything other than fear.

@DownWhichOfLate

I don’t want schools to close either. I just want them to be safer. But, to some, that means homeschooling forever. No, just some safety measures please.

I still don't get this.....what realistically can be done? Can't keep windows open in Scotland during Winter? Rebuild all schools with bigger classrooms and sophisticated ventilation.....never going to happen.

We all know we will die someday, with the true covid death figures now available on ONS, it’s pretty unlikely to be due to Covid, if you are relatively young and healthy.

There are people who have totally forgotten this though. Covid is the only fear and the only thing that will kill them.

Sometimes people forget (block out?) that our lives are finite.

I’ve heard my own elderly father, repeatedly in his life say, “if I ever die” or “I hope I don’t die, but if I do….”

We are all going to die of something. That’s the only given in life. A car could have lost control
and crashed into me when I was walking along a busy road on the way back from school just now. I could catch covid again and this time, have complications and die. I could find a lump tomorrow and be told it’s incurable cancer.

But living in a perpetual state of fear just robs you of the time you do have. It’s pointless. And shameful that governments have gone down the fear route. It’s damaged people.

@Roselilly36 I’m so sorry about your MIL.

My dad in his mid 80s was never afraid of covid. Yet he was shamed into hiding away by his dr and the people around him.

He was diagnosed with vascular dementia last summer and has had a shockingly fast decline.
I’m so angry he lost his last 18 months of being “him” because of other peoples fear. Why they couldn’t just let him be i’ll never know, but he was constantly told he would die a terrible, lonely death if he didn’t hide away. And for what.

People also talk about 'the vulnerable' as if they are one huge group of people with exactly the same health conditions that all need protecting in exactly the same way.

I remember one post saying that nightclubs were a thing of the past, but don't worry, they were a recent invention and humankind can live without them . However it was likely a troll!

@Sloughsabigplace

There are a few members of my husbands family like this.

They won’t be fully happy until you have to update a government app every time you take a shit.

They are fearful. In their heads, they were going to die, and so they won’t be happy until the rest of the worlds protects them by the last unvaccinated person being forcibly held down an injected and no one being able to live a ‘normal’ life again. Because if people do, they will die. Because covid is the only boogy man that will kill them.

It’s sad. And they aren’t old, or at at any real risk either. Just very, very afraid. It’s sad.

I was chatting to an old woman at the bus stop at the end of November when omicron had just arrived in the U.K. and she said “there are already 6 cases here! And Boris still isn’t locking us down!” She was old and seemed pretty lonely and distressed so I don’t take her comments as a real genuine call for lockdown, but I guess that’s what happens when someone nervous and confused anyway sits in front on their TV while they are reporting the exact case number constantly updated as “breaking news”. It can be terrifying.

I remember watching the first news reports of people not allowed off cruise ships and some people havng to quarantine in Liverpool. I remember thinking how awful it sounded but at least steps were being taken to contain it.
Back then it was the scary unknown, but to my mind now I think we are in a totally different place. I have a CEV relative and at the start their GP said 'you really don't want to get this' and they shielded, it was worrying. But a month ago this relative did get Covid, at that point they had had 4 jabs and were eligible for anti virals. They came through.

I agree that some people are horribly afraid. I must admit I am not thrilled about the prospect of catching covid, but everyone seems to be falling prey now so it’s kind of whaddayado…

We all want covid to “go away” but some people (and posters on here) think the magic solution is lockdown.Actually I heard a doctor on the news saying that our model should be NZ and uttered that immortal phrase “we should be in lockdown now!” - and this was last week

There really have been posters spouting the most depressing crap, including the “there is no need to socialise in real life” line. I was looking at some introvert memes forwarded to me and they were all about secretly enjoying the pandemic and specifically lockdown. It’s one thing to admit to yourself that you are happy to self-isolate forever more, but another to try to force your views on others, especially the young if you have had your fun/chance to meet a partner etc etc.

No one “wants” a perpetual lockdown but people wants a covid situation that could only happen with perpetual lockdown and are rightly called out on it. So it goeS
I want safe schools where noone gets covid
You want to shut schools
No I want magic air machines and masks that make covid go away
But your measure don’t make covid go away, there are not making covid go away in the USA even in blue states which has invested huge amounts in ventilation and has masks from kindergarten
No your wrong measures like this make covid disappear!! I know a scientist told me

Oh God, THIS.

In the earlier part of the pandemic, we had a slightly different variation on this which was "I don't want lockdowns, I want us to turn into NZ with perfectly closed borders and no virus. Of course, until this materializes, we'll need lockdowns yes."

The UK seems to have gone from completely ignoring ventilation (remember 2020, when people were scrubbing hands and surfaces nonstop while doing nothing about ventilation?), to thinking that ventilation is some sort of Hogwarts magic trick that makes the virus go away.

@greenteafiend

The UK seems to have gone from completely ignoring ventilation (remember 2020, when people were scrubbing hands and surfaces nonstop while doing nothing about ventilation?), to thinking that ventilation is some sort of Hogwarts magic trick that makes the virus go away.

Tbf you could replace U.K. with mn ;

I think a lot of people do want magic solutions. Whether that’s ventilation, masks, or ‘learning to live with it’.

It’s like they (somewhat desperately) think if we wave that magic wand — POOFF!! — situation normal. But real life doesn’t work like that, either for mitigations or normalities.

There's a thread around with an OP of 'I'm done' which has gone the way of all Covid threads. I think there are varying degrees of being done with it though.

@beentoldcomputersaysno

I often see posters accused of wanting continual lockdowns, despite their post not suggesting it. I often assume it's done to deflect or antagonise posters who suggest a health measure(s) to adapt to life post-2019. However, is there anyone who posts on this board that does want perpetual lockdowns?

I agree OP.

And as soon as you challenge someone on it they never respond coherently.

The last proper lockdown was when schools closed which was in Jan 2021. A long time ago.

No one “wants” a perpetual lockdown but people wants a covid situation that could only happen with perpetual lockdown and are rightly called out on it. So it goeS

Totally agree with this.

@greenteafiend

The UK seems to have gone from completely ignoring ventilation (remember 2020, when people were scrubbing hands and surfaces nonstop while doing nothing about ventilation?), to thinking that ventilation is some sort of Hogwarts magic trick that makes the virus go away.

Again this is nonsense.

Ventilation makes a massive difference - that’s why you don’t get as much transmission outside.

I don’t understand why the government aren’t actively trying to tackle the lack of ventilation in schools for example.

The last proper lockdown was when schools closed which was in Jan 2021. A long time ago

It didn’t stop the multitude of posts re heading to next lockdown this January

No one will ever actually say, “I want a perpetual lockdown.” They say things like, “We should be in lockdown until it is safe “ . “Safe” is a moveable feast, which could range from some cases of covid to no infectious diseases, nay any deaths, ever.

@MarshaBradyo

The last proper lockdown was when schools closed which was in Jan 2021. A long time ago

It didn’t stop the multitude of posts re heading to next lockdown this January

There were hardly any actually.

As it was, people were effectively locking themselves down because Plan B wasn’t enough.

And look what happened, case numbers fell as a result. Funny that.