Why are we still wearing masks?

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I’m not in the U.K.

Where I am, we still have to wear masks in the supermarket/petrol stations etc..we’ve never not had to,
The U.K. don’t, right?
Why are we still having to do this? I can’t see it ending, will be so very odd going shopping without masks

@Flaxmeadow

We (UK) did have daily deaths below 40 for months. In May 2021 daily deaths were really low. From April 10th 2021 daily deaths did not rise above 40 until the 13th of July (the beginnings of the Delta effect).

If i remember mask wearing then was widespread during those months? And of course we also had a good vaccine roll out

@Flaxmeadow Yes you're right.

The government decided to do "freeeeddom day" just when Delta hit...

[quote Dishhh]@Lockdownbear

The long term risks of particals and chemicals on the lungs.
Just a reminder at one point people thought asbestos was great. They don't think that any more.

Are you comparing masks to ... asbestos? [/quote]
Can you find research that confirms there is no risk from inhailing plastic particals or fibers from masks?

We know masks shed particals, some shed more than others.

Back in the day people didn't think asbestos was dangerous either. So yes I am very worried about what sort of ticking time bomb has potentially been set off.

So yes I am very worried about what sort of ticking time bomb has potentially been set off.

Yes indeed. Long Covid is a huge ticking time bomb.

Masks? Well they've been wearing them with no issue whatsoever in Japan for more than a century. Despite over 100 years of 'abestos' masks, Japan has one of the largest elderly populations in the world.

Right. Off to bed for me.

Night everyone 😷💉

@Lockdownbear

Can you find research that confirms there is no risk from inhailing plastic particals or fibers from masks?

Can you find research that there is a risk? It was you that brought the topic up.

Like Tealightsandd, I'm far more concerned with any long-term effects of the virus on my already fragile body.

I wouldn't worry about it, Boris is going to remove all restrictions this next week to deflect attention away from partygate.

Can you find research that confirms there is no risk from inhailing plastic particals or fibers from masks?

There are risks, if minimal, in every activity, voluntary or involuntary, including sleeping in bed, for any living person. Research is never designed to confirm the lack of risk, only its presence if in any way significant, so that notion is ridiculous.

Can you find research that there is a risk? It was you that brought the topic up

See my earlier posts with links.

@BasketBlocks

We still do in England because they look good and make going shopping much more mysterious and dangerous.

ha ha i like this , except im not going back to wearing one as i think now its a load of shite for a mild varient . so i just bought a lanyard to wear instead , that way everyone can say how selfish and evil i am

You could but 3 'mask exempt' badges from Home Bargains for 99p, might be cheaper than a lanyard?

@Nat6999

I wouldn't worry about it, Boris is going to remove all restrictions this next week to deflect attention away from partygate.

Mitigations. We don't really have any restrictions. And despite the bodies that will pile up or become disabled, that won't be enough for the telegraph. They won't stop until he's replaced by Silent But Deadly Twelve Homes Sunak.

As a fan of Churchill, Boris should know that appeasement never works.

Talking of deflection. Partygate's working a charm. Mitigations that allow people to 'live' with a still new, possibly not completely natural, disease that kills and disables are going to be removed (on Plague Island).

100s of bodies piling up every week will be described as a stable 'low'. And as for the many Long Covid disabled? Ssshh, let's talk about wine.

Living with cars means seat belts, speeding limits, and child seats.

Living with SARS-COV-2, at least until we have the rest of the world vaccinated, better knowledge and understanding, and wider availability of the new anti virals and monoclonal antibodies like sotrovimab, equally means mitigations.

Masks, vaccine passes, and good ventilation such as HEPA filters and corsi-rosenthal boxes.

Health is wealth and wealth is health.

Do you have to say 'let the bodies pile up' in every post you make @Tealightsandd?

@Sparklingbrook

I desperately wish for the day when I don't need to 🤞

Working from home if you can and 'having to' wear a face covering in some settings counts as restrictions to me and thank fuck they're going soon and we can move on.

Off out now.

Wishing you all a nice evening (minus a body pile).

😷💉

[quote Tealightsandd]@Sparklingbrook

I desperately wish for the day when I don't need to 🤞[/quote]
That day was a long time ago, there's no need for it at all. Don't know what the crossed fingers are for.

We don't really have any restrictions

You just sound ridiculous when you say that. It's one thing to want more, but we've got laws criminalising people for not isolating, laws that currently apply to millions of people. It's an objective fact that this is a restriction. If a time traveller from 2019 were to arrive they'd be gobsmacked.

Yes the threat of a fine for not self isolating correctly-that's a restriction in itself. It makes no sense to say it isn't.

@Sparklingbrook

Yes the threat of a fine for not self isolating correctly-that's a restriction in itself. It makes no sense to say it isn't.

And quite different to anything the vast majority of people will have previously experienced.

When my friend was isolating when they had Covid there was text after text asking for close contacts and saying you MUST not go out. Then phone calls to follow up. It was relentless and slightly menacing really.

Living with cars means seat belts, speeding limits, and child seats.

But these aren't onerous requirements at all. Plus the cost/benefit analysis of them is very clear. I don't think we can say the same for masks, the evidence for their efficacy (as worn by the general pop) is scanty and some sections of society really struggle with them.

I don't personally have an issue with wearing one myself, but there seems to be little attempt to really understand if they make a difference.

We don't really have any restrictions

No we don't have any restrictions.
Nightclubs are shut.
Not suppose to meet with more than 3 households.
Schools aren't allowed to mix classes, hold parties or assemblies.
Parents aren't allowed inside the school or nursery buildings.
Nursing homes still have restricted visiting.
Shops are back to operating one way systems And social distancing.
Kids are in masks all day.
Libraries have closed.

But naw we don't have restrictions.

@Nat6999 sadly you may be right, despite the economic impact that more cases will have because of self-isolation.

@Lockdownbear I assume you live in Wales.

Living with cars means seat belts, speeding limits, and child seats.

Humongous difference very clear evidence that seat belts save people from more serious injuries and death.

There is very little evidence that masks are making any difference.
If they did Scotland should have much lower covid rates than England but it doesn't.