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Quebec to introduce a tax for the unvaccinated

110 replies

Hairbrush123 · 13/01/2022 12:20

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59960689.amp

What are peoples thoughts on this?

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Nsmum14 · 13/01/2022 15:16

It is appalling. Can't understand the people who approve of this. We live in dangerous times, when people celebrate the demonisation and the punishing of those who don't fall into line.

VikingOnTheFridge · 13/01/2022 15:20

Sounds like it could get racist pretty fast.

PassingByAndThoughtIdDropIn · 13/01/2022 15:52

@HeatonGrove

Not a new idea. Taxes on alcohol, tobacco and sugar also seek to influence people into adopting healthier choices.

But by far the single most important factor influencing hospital admission for Covid is AGE not vaccine status. So perhaps the tax should only be levied on those aged 50+?

In order to encourage people to be younger? Every January my New Year's resolution is to be twenty five again, but I just lack the motivation. Maybe a tax penalty would give me that extra push I need.
LemonSwan · 13/01/2022 16:04

Do they recognise natural immunity?

Ohchristmastreeohchristmastree · 13/01/2022 16:08

I’m not against it. You can’t expect to make bad health choices in life and the NHS just to pick up the bill from everyone else.

userperuser · 13/01/2022 16:17

@Ohchristmastreeohchristmastree

I’m not against it. You can’t expect to make bad health choices in life and the NHS just to pick up the bill from everyone else.
The NHS has always operated on a ‘treating customers fairly’ basis.

Many ‘unvaccinated’ will have paid tax all their lives whist others have paid nothing.

I pay higher rate tax and claim nothing so it fair to offer someone of a similar risk profile to myself who is vaccinated treatment even though they have never paid a penny in tax and have lived off the state?

XenoBitch · 13/01/2022 16:18

@Ohchristmastreeohchristmastree

I’m not against it. You can’t expect to make bad health choices in life and the NHS just to pick up the bill from everyone else.
But that is exactly what happens.
LondonWolf · 13/01/2022 16:19

@Ohchristmastreeohchristmastree

I’m not against it. You can’t expect to make bad health choices in life and the NHS just to pick up the bill from everyone else.
So, you’ll be wanting obese people/smokers/drinkers/lifestyle related conditions to be similarly penalised then?
MaxNormal · 13/01/2022 16:26

You can’t expect to make bad health choices in life and the NHS just to pick up the bill from everyone else

Then why is most of the UK overweight or obese and still expecting healthcare?

NoVaccinePassportsAnywhere · 13/01/2022 16:26

It's absolutely disgusting. No one should feel forced into doing something to their body just to keep their job or because the government tell them to do. I really fear for my children's future if this is what it's going to be like, no say into what you do with your own body.

Hoggler · 13/01/2022 16:35

It's evil. Anyone who can't see otherwise has serious issues.

Thievesoil · 13/01/2022 16:45

I am horrified and dismayed

So called conspiracy theorists were mocked for suggesting this could happen in 2020

And it’s Canada. It’s a mandatory medical treatment,

What is happening to the west?

Chasingtime · 13/01/2022 16:52

Its bad. That what I think and I am all vaxxed up to date. I have to be because of my business as I work with pregnant women.

But any one who is happy to see this is not a pleasant person

Flaxmeadow · 13/01/2022 17:10

what about charging drinkers, smokers, the obese, skiers, riders, those who are injured in speed related RTAs? Where does it stop

But this already happens. Booze and fags are heavily taxed, sugar tax is becoming a thing. Ski holidaymakers pay health insurance, or should do if they've got any sense. Car drivers pay insurance, we have a fines and points system for speeding

The unnvaccinted tax is a good idea, the money can go back into healthcare to pay for beds and ICU for them in the future, but I think the tax should be means tested.

userperuser · 13/01/2022 17:24

sugar tax is becoming a thing

The biggest person I know drinks Diet Coke from morning until night. It’s the cheap junk food that’s their problem.

Whitefire · 13/01/2022 17:28

@Thievesoil

I am horrified and dismayed

So called conspiracy theorists were mocked for suggesting this could happen in 2020

And it’s Canada. It’s a mandatory medical treatment,

What is happening to the west?

How did we end up here? Not only that we also have people rationalising it and concluding that it is a good thing.
CrunchyCarrot · 13/01/2022 17:28

I think it's dreadful. The suggestion is that the 'unvaccinated' have not contributed to the fight against Covid - when most will have by following various laws on wearing masks, lockdowns, etc. It doesn't take into account why people are unvaccinated, many have genuine medical reasons or health worries. This move is forcing people to get jabbed no matter what the potential effect could be on their mental or bodily health.

Plus who's to say the goal posts won't be moved so that people who haven't had the required boosters would end up paying fines in time? How long does this go on? It sets a disturbing precedent.

MintJulia · 13/01/2022 17:31

How much does 6 avoidable weeks in ICU cost?

It's a bit chilling but I can see the logic.

PartyOnKale · 13/01/2022 17:32

Type 2 diabetes costs the NHS a fortune.

XenoBitch · 13/01/2022 17:33

@Flaxmeadow

what about charging drinkers, smokers, the obese, skiers, riders, those who are injured in speed related RTAs? Where does it stop

But this already happens. Booze and fags are heavily taxed, sugar tax is becoming a thing. Ski holidaymakers pay health insurance, or should do if they've got any sense. Car drivers pay insurance, we have a fines and points system for speeding

The unnvaccinted tax is a good idea, the money can go back into healthcare to pay for beds and ICU for them in the future, but I think the tax should be means tested.

You can live your life and not do any of those things. Hardly comparable to getting taxed for not doing something.
Nidan2Sandan · 13/01/2022 17:35

@Ohchristmastreeohchristmastree

I’m not against it. You can’t expect to make bad health choices in life and the NHS just to pick up the bill from everyone else.
Shit, how do you plan to break this news to all the Type 2 diabetics who got the illness through their bad diet?? Surely they also should no longer expect the NHS to pick up the bill for their bad choices too?
XenoBitch · 13/01/2022 17:37

@MintJulia

How much does 6 avoidable weeks in ICU cost?

It's a bit chilling but I can see the logic.

Lots of reasons people end up in hospital could have been avoided too.
Marmelace · 13/01/2022 17:39

I'm pro vaccination, but I also think people should have a choice. I've honestly not took a stance on any of this before now, but all this blackmailing people into doing as they are told is getting fucking scary.

samyeagar · 13/01/2022 17:49

@MintJulia

How much does 6 avoidable weeks in ICU cost?

It's a bit chilling but I can see the logic.

Where does one come up with such a definitive "avoidable"?

I mean, if it was a significant number of covid positive people who ended up in ICU, maybe, but overwhelmingly vaccinated and unvaccinated covid positive people do not up in hospital, let alone ICU.

And also, it is not unvaccinated people spreading covid. It is covid positive people spreading covid, so if there was really an interest in fighting covid , the punative measure would directed at those actually spreading it.

Ontheblink · 13/01/2022 18:00

That rules out any future holidays to Canada for me, ditto Australia. The countries which make up these pathetic coercive rules don’t deserve tourism.