A covid 19 infection can raise the risk of Type I & II Diabetes in Children

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From the CDC. FB Link below to NYT Article.

This is what many professionals have been shouting from the rooftops for months now. While children do not die in large numbers, they can still be damaged long-term by these infections. There will no doubt be many more health problems showing up over the next few years at a population (Pediatric) wide level due to a previous covid infection in children.

It was absolute lunacy to let the virus rip through the 5 - 11 year olds in the UK. The JCVI will have a lot to answer for as they were responsible for holding up the vaccinations.

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@DayKay

And are they sure that it’s not linked to pandemic stress, lockdowns, school closures, lack of exercise, eating too much of the wrong food, becoming more sedentary due to parents not having time?

They are experienced medical researchers. It is the CDC. They know what they are talking about, yes.

You need to understand it’s not just covid that can do this - it’s any virus and the connection is well established.
Firstly someone has to carry the genetics for type 1 diabetes. It then has to be triggered as an autoimmune response attacking the pancreas. ANY virus can do this. My family member’s was triggered by a throat infection years ago.

Im interested in this research as I work in an infant school and we have 3 children develop type 1 diabetes this year. We previously have only had one child at a time and often no children at all.

I totally understand this could be a fluke and thats how life works, you get random gluts - but I had wondered if type 1 was increasing generally.

As someone who developed type 1 diabetes 20 years ago I was told then that it was triggered by a virus. My understanding is that you have the wrong genetics then a number of things, a virus being the most common, can trigger an autoimmune response that causes your body to attack itself and kill off the islets in your pancreas that produce insulin and you end up with type 1 diabetes. So I think as far as type 1 goes it's more that if lots of children catch covid or any virus at once, lots of those with the genetic predisposition are going to be triggered at once so the numbers getting type 1 increase.

It's not the same as deliberately setting your house on fire so you have to jump out of the window.

To carry on this metaphor, the cost of fire prevention (ie restrictions) to protect people who can't jump out of the window is very high and is disproportionately paid by the people who can jump out of the window.

@rrhuth

Perfectly put. I can only assume the constant minimising is because its the only way people can stop themselves from worrying.

When you watch your government ignore a risk to UK children that most other countries are taking much more seriously, it does show how powerless we are as parents in this country.

Europe, USA have vaccinated children. Japan, Singapore, China have kept cases low. UK has done neither, and has deliberately exposed children.

What’s really bizarre was that even the jcvi seemed to conclude the health risks of catching covid were greater in 12-15 year olds than being vaccinated and still decided it wasn’t worth a vaccination campaign. And that’s with them massively underestimating how many children would get covid. If the CMO hadn’t stepped in I do wonder how quickly they would have reversed their decision. It might give us a clue as to how long it will take to change the decision on 5-11 year olds.

I’d also be interested to know what the data is regarding omicron now as that’s the main variant in this country, which is milder than delta.

@DayKay diet, sedentary lifestyle has nothing to do with developing Type 1 diabetes.

I remember the risk of diabetes in children was talked about very early on.

Vaccines help prevent people becoming seriously ill or dying from Covid. The JCVI decision was based on the known risks of Covid to children against the unknown risks of adverse effects of the vaccine. Their decision does not change the fact that virus infections have always caused some serious long term issues in a small percentage of people. As vaccination does not prevent infections then the vaccines will not prevent issues such as diabetes or, other long term risks,

While there is some evidence that vaccines may slow the spread of Covid, there is no way that the virus can be avoided in the long term.

Any virus increase diabetes in kids - FACT

Vaccinations won't help either as doesn't stop you catching it

@Barbie222

Are more children being diagnosed with diabetes than before the pandemic?

Second paragraph in the linked article:

"Researchers in Europe have reported an increase in the number of children being diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes since the pandemic started" then goes on to talk about a different study which found the same in type 1 and type 2.

If you think T1 diabetes in children has any connection to lifestyle, you don’t understand even the basics about diabetes. At least read the Wikipedia article or something.

All viruses raise risk of type 1 diabetes. I developed it after an ear infection.

@Footnote

If you think T1 diabetes in children has any connection to lifestyle, you don’t understand even the basics about diabetes. At least read the Wikipedia article or something.

The study did not reliably differentiate between type 1 and type 2 diabetes. That is a rather serious limitation.

@DayKay

I’d also be interested to know what the data is regarding omicron now as that’s the main variant in this country, which is milder than delta.

Omicron is producing less severe illness in some (important) ways but there are concerns it is producing different effects in other ways e.g. clotting.

The picture around Omicron is not yet clear (it has taken hold very fast so we have not had long to study it) and the word 'milder' is becoming quite politicised.

The vaccination prevents serious illness from covid and reduces the risk of long covid /longterm complications so yes its lokely that vaccination would prevent many of the risks after covid.

Yes other virus can cause complications afterwards to but omicron is spreading so fast that it eould have been preferable to have given our children some form of protection. Like we do when we vaccinate with the childhood vaccination system.

@DayKay

And are they sure that it’s not linked to pandemic stress, lockdowns, school closures, lack of exercise, eating too much of the wrong food, becoming more sedentary due to parents not having time?

How would any of those things link to developing type 1 diabetes in anyway?

I’ll repeat the fact that the study did not differentiate between type 1 and type 2. All the cases could be type 2.

This from the article Researchers in Europe have reported an increase in the number of children being diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes since the pandemic started - this has been reported on for quite some time now.

A family members child has developed diabetes and discovering they had covid at the same time. I think lots of illnesses can trigger the illness though. it was probably a matter of time

My kids are at risk of developing T1 from their dad having it. Both have covid. It’s such a shit disease, I hope they never get it 🙁

This from the article Researchers in Europe have reported an increase in the number of children being diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes since the pandemic started - this has been reported on for quite some time now.

I don’t think there is anything particularly surprising about this - there’s a nasty virus circulating and viruses trigger type 1.

Longer term, what they will be looking for is whether or not there was a surge in diagnosis which returned to below average levels ie. covid triggered type 1 in those who would likely have been triggered anyway at some point; or whether there was a surge and normal levels resumed afterwards which would, I think, change thinking on type 1 quite considerably.

even if they are likely to develop at some point during their lives it is still preferable for this to be as late as possible. i wouldn't want my young children to have to be injecting themselves several times a day and checking blood sugar levels before they would otherwise need to if they avoid covid now.
The longer type 1 is needing to be dealt with they more risk of other issues alongside it.
In addition to this if we do end up with a medical system where meds are needed to be paid for via own pocket or insurance you only need to look to America to see how dad this is for many many type 1 diabetics

I feel like this is very misleading. Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease known to be triggered by certain events, e.g. viral infections, severe shock etc.

I'm type 1 diabetic, I was diagnosed 6 months after having chicken pox. My consultant at the time told me that all type 1 diabetics are born with the autoimmune reaction and will develop type 1 at some point, it just depends on when it's triggered.

Also for the people mentioning lifestyle factors, please educate yourself a bit before you feel qualified to talk about medical issues.

As the mother of a 9 year old who has recently been diagnosed with T1 following Covid, I don't believe there is a great deal of accuracy behind this assertion (yet). A lot of people have said this to me and I discussed it with her consultant. She said that T1 almost always results from a genetic predisposition but may be triggered by a virus or other health event (or there may be no easily identifiable trigger). Because many children are catching this virus at present, a greater number of genetically predisposed children are being "triggered".

In the case of my DD, there is a family history of T1 on both sides and an obvious genetic predisposition. Covid may have triggered her developing T1, but I don't believe it was the cause.

I would like to say that the premise of the article is not factually clear and I don't feel that it is responsible of news outlets to make this statement just for clicks.